December 2005 - address-policy-wg

AW: [ipv6-wg] Re: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Andre's guide to fi x IPv6
by Bonness, Olaf 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Hi Gerd, > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- > Von: Gert Doering [mailto:gert@space.net] > Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2005 18:07 > An: Kurt Erik Lindqvist > Cc: Cameron C. Gray; Per Heldal; address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net; > ipv6-wg(a)ripe.net > Betreff: Re: [ipv6-wg] Re: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: > Andre's guide to > fix IPv6 > > > Hi, > > On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 02:17:25PM +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: > > I think each LIR should get a /32 and we should drop the 200 > > "customer" rule. But that is just me... > > Actually I like the "every AS should get a <network>" approach (with > a yearly recurring fee for AS and network, to guarantee return of the > resources as soon as the importance of having a slot in the global > routing table doesn't outweigh the costs anymore). > > "Every LIR gets a /32 (upon request), no questions asked" is a concept > that I'm also happy with - as I have said before. For those that are > afraid of the landrush: limit that policy to 5.000 LIRs per region. Not sure if that works. Kind of "First come - first serve" thing. Regards Olaf > Gert Doering > -- NetMaster > -- > Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 81421 > > SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster(a)Space.Net > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 > D- 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-234 >

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RIPE NCC Regional Meeting, Qatar, 17 - 18 January 2006: Updates to Agenda
by Paul Rendek 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, A revised agenda for the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Doha, Qatar (17 - 18 January 2006), is now available at: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/regional/qatar-2006/agenda.html This meeting is specifically designed to provide participants with a forum to discuss topics related to IP networking in the region. Topics on the agenda include: - A review of the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) and the way forward - IPv4 exhaustion and IPv6 consumption - Site Multihoming by IPv6 Intermediation (Shim6) - Internet security and new developments in Internet routing - The RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP) - RIPE NCC training seminars on Routing Registry and DNSSEC. The meeting will also feature demonstrations of services such as the Routing Information Service (RIS), BGPlay and Test Traffic Measurements (TTM) that help users analyse network behaviour. More information about these demonstrations is available at: http://www.ripe.net/meetings/regional/qatar-2006/demos/index.html In addition, RIPE NCC IP Resource Analysts will be at the meeting to answer any questions about IPv4 / IPv6 allocations and assignments. REGISTRATION Attendance to the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting is open and free of charge. However, attendees are responsible for covering their own travel and accommodation costs. Registration for the Regional Meeting is now open. Registration will close on Friday, 13 January 2006. To register, please see: http://www.ripe.net/qatar2006/register PRESENTATIONS FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY We have reserved space in the agenda for presentations from the local community on current issues affecting the region. If there is a particular presentation or topic you would like included in the agenda, please send your suggestion to: <contact(a)ripe.net> MORE INFORMATION More information about the RIPE NCC Regional Meeting in Qatar is available from: http://www.ripe.net/qatar2006 Any further questions can be sent directly to: <contact(a)ripe.net> Regards, Paul Rendek Head of Member Services & Communications RIPE NCC

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De-aggregation of assigned IPv6 prefixes?
by Jeroen Massar 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Hi, http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv6policy.html#initial_criteria reads amongst others: 8<------------------- c) plan to provide IPv6 connectivity to organisations to which it will assign /48s by advertising that connectivity through its single aggregated address allocation -------------------->8 According to the above, after the /48, can one announce more specifics or should/must one not do this? (*) The RIPE Registry allows registering more specific route6 objects. If this is allowed, then why is the above parrt, after '/48', then included in the policy? What is the exact intention of the sentence? Greets, Jeroen *= of course one is lord of their own network and thus can announce whatever one wants and just hope/agree that others accept it.

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Dynamic or
by Olav Noergaard 05 Dec '05

05 Dec '05

Are there a difference between what IP-addresses can be uset for, like some are only for dynamic addresses and some are for stationary addresses, and if there are a difference, where can I see that? -- Olav

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Re: [ipv6-wg] Re: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Andre's guide to fix IPv6
by Max Tulyev 02 Dec '05

02 Dec '05

> Last time I was a hosting proivider I signed up as a LIR and built my > own network infrastructure to the nearest IX points. > This time I have outrourced the lot and my 300 server serverfarm is > behind a firewall on a handfull of IP addresses > > Changing ISP is really easy? > Yes. Stop. You have 10000 domains. You have IP address(es) from ISP A . You are moving to ISP B with OTHER address(es). And you don't need to send 10000 modify requests for these 10000 domains to change A (NS, MX) records. Where is the magic? ;-) > > To be a LIR and grab /20 if really need only /28? > Depends. Today I manage with a /23 PI or PA? Your own or upstream's? -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253@FIDO)

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Re: [ipv6-wg] Re: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Andre's guide tofix IPv6
by Randy Bush 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

[ something did some horrifying things to the header of your mail as i received it, in particular the references: line, see appended. so i had to chop the refs off my reply. apologies to those who thread based on it. ] > I might totaly missunderstand you, but I get the feeling you want > us to go back to the root of the IPv6 discussion when it all was > started and use some of the stuff that was done before instead of > trying to figure it all out again? yep. though, since i come from the perspective of living it all these years, the "go back" part is a recent view :-). i.e. sane operational folk have been sining this song for years. there has been an amazing lack of ears listening to it. randy --- line breaks are not from here! References: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0511211704050.10258(a)chandra.student.uit.no><87slt m3p3n.fsf(a)mid.deneb.enyo.de><Pine.LNX.4.56.0511251013060.10258(a)chandra.stud ent.uit.no><4386E053.73B661B3(a)networx.ch><43886509.6060600(a)unfix.org><87acf r1mjl.fsf(a)mid.deneb.enyo.de><002f01c5f43a$12631110$44eea2d5@l><6.2.0.14.2.2 0051129101355.02919160(a)kahuna.telstra.net><87fypfpm1e.fsf(a)mid.deneb.enyo.de ><6.2.0.14.2.20051130053430.02d015d0(a)kahuna.telstra.net><20051130161647.GA1 2947(a)srv01.cluenet.de><08D2E092-8FB3-4C5D-9837-4433C77F0B46(a)kurtis.pp.se><1 7294.55288.858722.708230(a)roam.psg.com><6.2.0.14.2.20051202045722.02de10b0@k ahuna.telstra.net> <17295.18210.797714.378814(a)roam.psg.com>

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