August 2012 - address-policy-wg

Re: [address-policy-wg] 2012-05 New Policy Proposal (Transparency in Address Block Transfers)
by McTim 14 Sep '12

14 Sep '12

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Emilio Madaio <emadaio(a)ripe.net> wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > > A proposed change to RIPE Document ripe-553, "IPv4 Address Allocation > and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region", is now > available for discussion. Besides publishing a list of v4 resources that have been moved, what does this accomplish that sub-allocations don't already do? Is the recipient LIR charged according to the resources under their registry file? -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2012-05 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Transparency in Address Block Transfers)
by Sander Steffann 07 Sep '12

07 Sep '12

Dear Address Policy WG, There has been no feedback on policy proposal 2012-05 since it entered the review phase: > The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-05, > "Transparency in Address Block Transfers", has been published. The > Impact Analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been > published. > > You can find the full proposal at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05 > > and the draft document at: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05/draft > > We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments > to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 31 August 2012. We have almost reached the end of the review phase. Without feedback from the WG this policy proposal cannot proceed. Please let us know what you think of this policy proposal, or if you think more time is needed to discuss it. Thank you, Sander Steffann APWG Co-chair

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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2012-05 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Transparency in Address Block Transfers)
by Brenden Kuerbis 30 Aug '12

30 Aug '12

I believe some comments were previously expressed: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/2012-August/007031… I support those comments. I also agree with the portion of RIPE's impact analysis which proposes to anonymize refused transfer data. The point of having that particular data is to see how much is being refused, rather than to know specifically who was refused. Regards, --------------------------------------- Brenden Kuerbis Postdoctoral Fellow, Citizen Lab, Munk School of Global Affairs, University of Toronto || http://citizenlab.org Postdoctoral Researcher, iSchool, Syracuse University || http://internetgovernance.org <http://internetgovernance.org> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Sander Steffann <sander(a)steffann.nl> wrote: > Dear Address Policy WG, > > There has been no feedback on policy proposal 2012-05 since it entered the > review phase: > > > The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-05, > > "Transparency in Address Block Transfers", has been published. The > > Impact Analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been > > published. > > > > You can find the full proposal at: > > > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05 > > > > and the draft document at: > > > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05/draft > > > > We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments > > to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 31 August 2012. > > We have almost reached the end of the review phase. Without feedback from > the WG this policy proposal cannot proceed. Please let us know what you > think of this policy proposal, or if you think more time is needed to > discuss it. > > Thank you, > Sander Steffann > APWG Co-chair > > > > >

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2012-04 Draft Document and Impact Analysis in the making (PI Assignment from the Last /8)
by Emilio Madaio 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

Dear colleagues, As previously announced, the discussion period for the proposed change to RIPE Document ripe-553, "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region", has ended. A Draft Policy text and the Impact Analysis were due to move the proposal to Review Phase. While performing the Impact Analysis, RIPE NCC staff have identified a number of additional points to review in light of past discussions relating to IP address management and overall RIPE NCC membership. Therefore, in agreement with the Address Policy Working Group Co-chairs and the author of the proposal, we have decided to invest some more time in the analysis. The RIPE NCC will publish all relevant documentation in the coming weeks, and the proposal will move to the Review Phase prior to the RIPE 65 Meeting. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-04 Apologies for any inconvenience Regards Emilio Madaio Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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RIPE65 - Agenda, first draft
by Gert Doering 14 Aug '12

14 Aug '12

Hi APWG folks, RIPE meeting orga, below you can find a draft for the RIPE address policy WG meeting's agenda, which will take place in Amsterdam in the following two time slots: Thursday, Sep 27, 09:00 - 10:30 Thursday, Sep 27, 11:00 - 12:30 The exact time lines depend a bit on how much discussion is going on, so we might move items one time slot "up" or "down". If you have anything else you want to see on the agenda, or of we need to change anything, please let us know. regards, Gert Doering, APWG chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday, 09:00-10:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A. Administrative Matters 5 min (welcome, thanking the scribe, approving the minutes, etc.) B. Current Policy Topics - Emilio Madaio - global policy overview "what's going on?" - common policy topics in all regions (end of IPv4, transfers, ...) - overview over concluded proposals in the RIPE region since RIPE64 - brief overview over new proposals (if any) D. Feedback From NCC Registration Service - Alex le Heux F. Discussion of open policy proposals 2012-02 Policy for Inter-RIR transfers of IPv4 Address Space 2012-03 Intra-RIR transfer policy proposal 2012-04 (IPv4) PI assignments from the last /8 2012-05 Transparency in Address Block Transfers <new> IPv6 PA/PI unification proposal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday, 11:00-12:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- G. Discussion of open policy proposals (continued) H. IPv4 maintenance policy - Rob Blokzijl (bring topic back into people's minds, agree on next steps) Y. Open Policy Hour "The Open Policy Hour (OPH) is a showcase for your policy ideas. If you have a policy proposal you'd like to debut, prior to formally submitting it, here is your opportunity." Z. AOB

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Policy/practice on holding back space before reallocation?
by Heather Schiller 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

I have not been able to find this info on RIPE's website. Does anyone know the amount of time RIPE holds back a 'deregistered number resource' before allocating it? I found this document that describes the deregistration process for a resource holder: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-517 In general it gives the resource holder 4 weeks to object and 3 months to remediate. It does not describe how long RIPE will hold back deregistered IP's before allocating them out again. For example, ARIN used to hold back for one year.. they recently announced they were preparing to drop from 6 months hold to 3 months hold - here is the announcement: https://www.arin.net/announcements/2012/20120717.html It's way down 3rd paragraph from the end. "One last change relates to the amount of time that ARIN will hold recovered IPv4 resources prior to reissuance. The hold time for all returned, reclaimed and revoked IPv4 resources will be reduced from six to three months." Does RIPE have a similar practice. Thanks, --Heather

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2011-04 Implementation: Extension of the Minimum Size for IPv6 Initial Allocation
by Ioanna Spyroulia 09 Aug '12

09 Aug '12

[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear colleagues, We have now completed the implementation of the accepted policy proposal 2011-04, "Extension of the Minimum Size for an IPv6 Allocation". RIPE NCC members who would like to extend an IPv6 allocation can submit the IPv6 Additional Allocation Request Form via the LIR Portal, or email it to<hostmaster(a)ripe.net>. You can find the IPv6 Additional Allocation Request Form at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-560 You can find the Supporting Notes for the IPv6 Additional Allocation Request Form at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-561 More information about IPv6 allocations is available at: http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/faq/faq-ipv6 -- Kind Regards Ioanna Spyroulia IP Resource Analyst RIPE Network Coordination Centre Phone:+31 20 535 4444 Fax:+31 20 535 4445

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Re: [address-policy-wg] Transparency in Address Block Transfers
by sandrabrown＠ipv4marketgroup.com 06 Aug '12

06 Aug '12

I support Milton Mueller's proposal to publish a record of transfers within the RIPE NCC. This will show RIPE participants the success (or failure) of transfer markets so we will know whether adjustments to the transfers processes need to be made. It will also, once Inter-RIR transfers are in place (Looking for support for Proposal 2012-02), show whether RIPE based constituents are using and needing to transfer IP's from and to other Regions. Sandra Brown IPv4 Market Group ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 14:35:28 +0200 From: "Emilio Madaio" <emadaio(a)ripe.net> Subject: [address-policy-wg] 2012-05 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Transparency in Address Block Transfers) To: policy-announce(a)ripe.net Cc: address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net Message-ID: <mailman.2.1344074403.18903.address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net> Dear Colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-05, "Transparency in Address Block Transfers", has been published. The Impact Analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05 and the draft document at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05/draft We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 31 August 2012. Regards Emilio Madaio Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC End of address-policy-wg Digest, Vol 12, Issue 1 ************************************************

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2012-05 New Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Transparency in Address Block Transfers)
by Emilio Madaio 03 Aug '12

03 Aug '12

Dear Colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2012-05, "Transparency in Address Block Transfers", has been published. The Impact Analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05 and the draft document at: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2012-05/draft We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 31 August 2012. Regards Emilio Madaio Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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