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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by Daniel Holme 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

On 25 October 2011 11:51, Emilio Madaio <emadaio(a)ripe.net> wrote: > A proposed change to RIPE Document ripe-530, "IPv4 Address Allocation > and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region", is now > available for discussion. > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 Hi I support this proposal. -- Daniel Holme Kcom

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2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by Rolf Schärer 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

+1 I support the proposal Cheers, Rolf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- netspring gmbh rolf schärer, ccie #17218 alte gasse 4 rolf.schaerer(a)netspring.ch 8610 uster, switzerland Tel: +41 44 500 79 70

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2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by Basile Bluntschli 01 Nov '11

01 Nov '11

+1 i support the proposal -- s w i s s i x - Swiss Internet Exchange Basile Bluntschli Board Member

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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by Florian Weimer 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

* Emilio Madaio: > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 I oppose this policy. IXPs shouldn't be special-cased. The assumption of a single peering LAN per organization does not seem to match the requirements of the industry. It is odd that preexisting PI space must be returned, but not existing PA space. -- Florian Weimer <fweimer(a)bfk.de> BFK edv-consulting GmbH http://www.bfk.de/ Kriegsstraße 100 tel: +49-721-96201-1 D-76133 Karlsruhe fax: +49-721-96201-99

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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by Sascha Lenz 31 Oct '11

31 Oct '11

Hi, Am 25.10.2011 um 11:51 schrieb Emilio Madaio: > > > Dear Colleagues, > > A proposed change to RIPE Document ripe-530, "IPv4 Address Allocation > and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region", is now > available for discussion. > > > > You can find the full proposal at: > > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to > <address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net> before 22 November 2011. i'm not a fan of "special entities", but IXPs actually are a bit special and the proposal again makes some examples why, so i do support this proposal. Reserving an(other) /16 for this purpose doesn't really hurt anyone either. I am not quite sure if 180days for returning the old prefix is really enough in a world where it's hard to reach some peering partners and get reactions in under 360days :-) but i'm not an IXP operator so what do i know... I just assume it's reasonable? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind Regards Sascha Lenz [SLZ-RIPE] Senior System- & Network Architect

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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-04 New Policy Proposal
by Ahmed Abu-Abed 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

In reality RIPE will be giving up a finite resource for implementing one particular type of a transition protocol, i.e. 6rd. Can't the response be go back to your vendor and ask them to implement a different transition protocol that doesn't waste address space ? After all, there are many such protocols out there. -Ahmed Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:04:20 +0200 From: "Jan Zorz @ go6.si" <jan(a)go6.si> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-04 New Policy Proposal To: address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net Message-ID: <4EA67B94.2090305(a)go6.si> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 10/25/11 9:44 AM, Ahmed Abu-Abed wrote: > Interesting to see a v6-in-v4 access protocol triggering a significant > change in allocation policy. > > As 6rd gobbles up 32 bits for the v4 address at the consumers v6 > assignment, there is an alternative in RFC 5572 (TSP) that presents > v6-in-v4 access on CPEs without such a need. And TSP can be implemented > as a software client so LIRs do not need to change the CPEs to roll out > IPv6 to end users. Dear Ahmed, We are aware of many similar technologies that would fulfill the same or similar goal, but what we are doing here is just listen to complains and requests from the field and try to make deployment of IPv6 (native or as service in this case) as easy as possible with this change of the policy proposal. Reality usually wins :) Cheers, Jan -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ahmed Abu-Abed" <ahmed(a)tamkien.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:44 AM To: "RIPE Address Policy" <address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-04 New Policy Proposal > Interesting to see a v6-in-v4 access protocol triggering a significant > change in allocation policy. > > As 6rd gobbles up 32 bits for the v4 address at the consumers v6 > assignment, there is an alternative in RFC 5572 (TSP) that presents > v6-in-v4 access on CPEs without such a need. And TSP can be implemented as > a software client so LIRs do not need to change the CPEs to roll out IPv6 > to end users. > > -Ahmed > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 21:28:47 +0200 > From: "Jan Zorz @ go6.si" <jan(a)go6.si> > Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-04 New Policy Proposal > (Extension of the Minimum Size for IPv6 Initial Allocation) > To: address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net > Message-ID: <4EA5BC6F.90005(a)go6.si> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 10/24/11 7:29 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> why are we screwing around? let's go straight to a /16 or at least a >> /20. > > it would not be fair to legacy v6 allocations :) > > can only expand to /29 without renumbering :S > > cheers, Jan >

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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by Tom Bird 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

On 25/10/11 10:51, Emilio Madaio wrote: > You can find the full proposal at: > > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 Morning, I support this proposal. -- Tom Bird Director, http://www.portfast.co.uk/ : AS8916 UK Limited company #6061075 : +44 1777 29 28 27

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Re: [address-policy-wg] [policy-announce] 2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by David Croft 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

On 25 October 2011 10:51, Emilio Madaio <emadaio(a)ripe.net> wrote: > A proposed change to RIPE Document ripe-530, "IPv4 Address Allocation > and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region", is now > available for discussion. I support this proposal as written. Regards, David Croft

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Re: [address-policy-wg] 2011-05 New Policy Proposal (Safeguarding future IXPs with IPv4 space)
by Andy Davidson 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

> You can find the full proposal at: > > http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-05 I support this proposal. -harald > > We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to > <address-policy-wg at ripe.net> before 22 November 2011. -- Harald Michl <harald.michl(a)univie.ac.at> Vienna University - ACOnet www.ACO.net - VIX www.VIX.at Universitaetsstrasse 7, A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Tel: +43 1 4277 - 14078 (Fax: - 9140) HM3550-RIPE

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Removal of multihomed requirement for IPv6 PI ?
by DI. Thomas Schallar 28 Oct '11

28 Oct '11

Hello! Four days ago the current phase on http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2011-02 ended (Sep.26th-Oct.24th). What now? regards, Thomas

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