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Draft agenda for RIPE79 APWG meeting
by Gert Doering 04 Oct '19

04 Oct '19

Hi APWG folks, Below you can find a draft for the RIPE address policy WG meeting's agenda, which will take place in Rotterdam in the side-room (diamond room) in the following time slots: Wednesday, Oct 16, 09:00 - 10:30 Wednesday, Oct 16, 11:00 - 12:30 If you have anything else you want to see on the agenda, or if we need to change anything, please let us know. Regards, Gert Döring & Erik Bais, APWG chairs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, 09:00-10:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A. Administrative Matters (welcome, thanking the scribe, approving the minutes, etc.) B. Presentation of the NRO NC candidates - Filiz Yilmaz - Stefan Nikolov C. Panel Discussion on "IPv4 effects after RIPE NCC run-out" <details and participants still under discussion> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, 11:00-12:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome back D. Current Policy Topics - Marco Schmidt, NCC PDO - global policy overview "what's going on?" - common policy topics in all regions (end of IPv4, transfers, ...) - overview over concluded proposals in the RIPE region since RIPE 78 - brief overview of new proposals (if any) E. Feedback From NCC Registration Service - Nikolas Pediaditis - IPv4 runout status - expectations for the waiting list phase (+ discussion with the group) F. Discussion of open policy proposals * tbd Y. Open Policy Hour The Open Policy Hour is a showcase for your policy ideas. If you have a policy proposal you'd like to debut, prior to formally submitting it, here is your opportunity. Z. AOB Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279

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New on RIPE Labs: 25, 000 LIRs - An End to the Milestone Highs?
by Mirjam Kuehne 03 Oct '19

03 Oct '19

Dear colleagues, Little more than twelve months after we passed the 20,000 active LIRs mark, the number of LIR accounts reached a new milestone. As the number of available IPv4 addresses in our pool dropped to 3 million, applications for new LIRs exploded. In July alone, we saw a record number of 788 new accounts being activated. At this new milestone, we once more look back at the historical developments, report on the run-out of available IPv4 and share some some insights on what the future might bring for our membership numbers. Please find more details on RIPE Labs: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/25-000-lirs-an-end-to-the-milestone-h… Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE NCC

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Policy Proposal Implemented: 2019-02 "IPv4 Waiting List Implementation”
by Petrit Hasani 19 Sep '19

19 Sep '19

Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce that we have implemented RIPE Policy Proposal 2019-02, "IPv4 Waiting List Implementation”. This policy established a waiting list with an allocation size of /24 once the RIPE NCC’s free IPv4 pool is exhausted. Please note: although this policy has been implemented (our software and procedures have been updated), it is not yet active. The policy is triggered when the RIPE NCC can no longer allocate the equivalent of a /22. We will send another announcement once the policy becomes active. The archived policy proposal can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-02 The RIPE Document, "IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region" is available at: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-725 -- Kind regards, Petrit Hasani RIPE NCC Registration Services

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2019-05 New Policy Proposal (Revised IPv4 assignment policy for IXPs)
by Marco Schmidt 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

Dear colleagues, A new RIPE Policy proposal, 2019-05, "Revised IPv4 assignment policy for IXPs" is now available for discussion. This proposal aims to increase the reserved IPv4 pool for IXPs to a /15 and finetune assignment criteria. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-05 As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this four week Discussion Phase is to discuss the proposal and provide feedback to the proposer. At the end of the Discussion Phase, the proposers, with the agreement of the WG Chairs, will decide how to proceed with the proposal. We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to <address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net> before 27 June 2019. Regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Officer RIPE NCC Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum

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New on RIPE Labs: So Long Last /8 and Thanks For All the Allocations
by Mirjam Kuehne 28 Aug '19

28 Aug '19

Dear colleagues, On 17 April 2018, we allocated the last available block of 1,024 addresses in 185/8 - the last /8 we received from IANA back in 2011. This article on RIPE Labs looks at how this address space was allocated and how it is used today: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/wilhelm/so-long-last-8-and-thanks-for-all-the… It's important to keep in mind that while 185/8 is finished, we still have around nine million recovered IPv4 addresses in our available pool. Under current policy and growth rates, we expect these to last a further two years. Kind regards, Mirjam Kühne RIPE NCC

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Staff participation in the IP market
by Ronald F. Guilmette 19 Aug '19

19 Aug '19

Please forgive me if this question is deemed inappropriate for this specific mailing list and working group. This seems to be the most appropriate WG for my question. I hope also that no one will take any offense nor any unstated implication from my question. I intend to put this question also to the communities of each and every one of the five global Regional Internet Registries. Nothing should be inferred from the fact that I am starting this process in the RIPE region. My question is a simple one: Are policies in place, within the RIPE region, which prohibit RIPE NCC staff members from participating in the current open market for IP addresses? I do believe that everyone on this mailing list must be well and truly aware of that fact that the buying, selling, and trading of IPv4 addresses is nowadays a lucrative and growing business. It should also be altogether clear and apparent that RIPE NCC staff could, if permitted to do so, leverage their significant and special ``insider'' knowledge to gain some advantage in this market, relative to other market participants. Thus, I wish to know simply if such participation is or is not currently prohibited or allowed by current applicable staff policy. To reiterate, nothing at all should be inferred from my question. I am most assuredly not making any allegations nor even any vague implications by my question. This general question came up in an unrelated context, and now I just want to know whether or not each of the five regions have policies in place with respect to staff participation in the burgeoning IP address market. Regards, rfg

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2019-05 Review Phase (Revised IPv4 assignment policy for IXPs)
by Marco Schmidt 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

Dear colleagues, Policy proposal 2019-05, "Revised IPv4 assignment policy for IXPs" is now in the Review Phase. This proposal aims to increase the reserved IPv4 pool for IXPs to a /15 and finetune assignment criteria. The proposal has been updated following the last round of discussion and is now at version v2.0. Some of the changes made to version v1.0 include: - The maximum assignment size to IXPs remains /22 - Defines that IPv4 ranges smaller than /24 will be added to the IXP pool The RIPE NCC has prepared an impact analysis on this latest proposal version to support the community’s discussion. You can find the full proposal and impact analysis at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-05 And the draft documents at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-05/draft As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this four week Review Phase is to continue discussion of the proposal, taking the impact analysis into consideration, and to review the full draft RIPE Policy Document. At the end of the Review Phase, the Working Group (WG) Chairs will determine whether the WG has reached rough consensus. It is therefore important to provide your opinion, even if it is simply a restatement of your input from the previous phase. We encourage you to read the proposal, impact analysis and draft document and send any comments to <address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net> before 6 September 2019. Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Officer RIPE NCC

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2019-02 Proposal Accepted (IPv4 Waiting List Implementation)
by Marco Schmidt 31 Jul '19

31 Jul '19

Dear colleagues, Consensus has been reached on 2019-02, "IPv4 Waiting List Implementation". This proposal aimed at creating a waiting list based on an allocation size of /24 once the RIPE NCC’s free IPv4 pool is exhausted. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-02 The new RIPE Document is called ripe-725 and is available at: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-725 We estimate that this proposal will take around one to two months to fully implement. We will send another announcement once the implementation is complete and the new procedures are in place. Thank you to everyone who provided input. Kind regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Officer RIPE NCC

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2019-02 Last Call for Comments (IPv4 Waiting List Implementation)
by Marco Schmidt 26 Jul '19

26 Jul '19

Dear colleagues, Proposal 2019-02, "IPv4 Waiting List Implementation", is now in Concluding Phase. This proposal aims at creating a waiting list based on an allocation size of /24 once the RIPE NCC’s free IPv4 pool is exhausted. The WG co-chair has declared that rough consensus has been reached and the proposal will now move to Last Call. As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this four week Concluding Phase is to give an opportunity to present well-justified objections for those who missed the previous two phases and wish to oppose the proposal. Any objection must be made by 24 July 2019 and must be supported by an explanation. If no substantive objections are raised by the end of Last Call, the proposal will complete the PDP and will be evaluated by the WG co-chairs for final consensus. You can find the full proposal at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-02 Please e-mail any final comments about this proposal to <address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net> before 24 July 2019. Regards, Marco Schmidt Policy Officer RIPE NCC Sent via RIPE Forum -- https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum

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question about IPv4 legacy and transfers - should we convert legacy to non-legacy with transfers?
by JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 24 Jul '19

24 Jul '19

Hi all, I keep thinking that ripe-682 (RIPE resource transfer policies), should have a provision (as it is the case in all the other RIRs), in order to "convert" the legacy resources to non-legacy, when they got transferred. I don't really recall if this was discussed during the relevant proposal discussion, and it will be great if someone can summarize it (I guess the author or chairs, or even the staff). I think we should consider amend that, unless the reasons it was not done at that time, persist today, or even if those reasons persist, may be the community has a different view. I think the text should be something such as: IPv4 legacy resources will no longer be regarded as legacy resources: - In the case of intra-RIR transfers. - In the case of inter-RIR, when incoming to RIPE service region. I think this is a benefit for the global community, because with that, we bring into the RIR system more and more legacy IPv4 resources, which increase the transparency and community control. In a presentation from ARIN for the 2016-2018 period it has been mention: - Overall space managed by ARIN decreased by ~14 million IPv4 addresses, due to Inter-RIR transfers - Overall ARIN issued space increased by ~30 million IPv4 addresses, due primarily to conversion of legacy space via in-region transfers Opinions? Regards, Jordi @jordipalet ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.

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