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RIPE-471 and suballocations
by Hank Nussbacher 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

I have been looking over RIPE-471 section 9: http://www.ripe.net/docs/ipv4-policies.html#9 and noticed that only some "status" categories are listed as "Sub-allocations cannot be made from this type of address space". Therefore I would have assumed that any status not listed as "Sub-allocations cannot be made from this type of address space" would allow sub-allocations. That is incorrect - for example - ASSIGNED PI does not allow sub-allocations. Can the doc please updated so it reflects correctly the s/w? Thanks, Hank

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how to change ASN
by Kamil Semavi 06 Oct '09

06 Oct '09

Hello guys, I want to change ASN of my whole subnet. How can I do it ? Thanks K.

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AW: [address-policy-wg] 2009-01, Global Policy for the allocation of IPv4 blocks to Regional Internet Registries
by Marcus.Gerdon 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

I don't think the situation's that different. I case ARIN's going to adopt the '*may* return to IANA' version I definitely see no sense in any other RIR implementing a *must*. Quite to the contrary. In this part I've to somewhat agree with Randy and unfortunately have to raise the question why we should return any addresses to IANA if ARIN decides to keep everything for themselves (with quite a bunch of legacy /8's being handled there). Marcus > Exactly. And that part of the policy is still common. So even if ARIN > changes the conditions under which they decide to return addresses to > the pool for the common good, the policy can still go forward for > adoption as a global policy. Of course the other RIRs might > decide that > ARIN's stance changes their minds on whether to adopt this > policy, but > that is a different situation. > > Nigel > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Engineering IP Services Versatel West GmbH Unterste-Wilms-Strasse 29 D-44143 Dortmund Fon: +49-(0)231-399-4486 | Fax: +49-(0)231-399-4491 marcus.gerdon(a)versatel.de | www.versatel.de Sitz der Gesellschaft: Dortmund | Registergericht: Dortmund HRB 21738 Geschäftsführer: Marc Lützenkirchen, Dr. Hai Cheng, Dr. Max Padberg, Peter Schindler ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AS8881 / AS8638 / AS13270 | MG3031-RIPE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Implementation details 2009-06 and 2009-08
by Ingrid Wijte 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Dear Colleagues, In my previous emails regarding the two accepted policy proposals (2009-06 and 2009-08) I overlooked to add information regarding approximate implementation timelines. We expect to be able to implement 2009-06 (Removing Routing Requirements from the IPv6 Address Allocation Policy) within one month and 2009-08 (IPv6 Provider Independent (PI) Assignments for LIRs) within three months. Regards Ingrid Wijte Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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2009-08 Proposal Accepted (IPv6 Provider Independent (PI) Assignments for LIRs)
by Ingrid Wijte 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

PDP Number: 2009-08 IPv6 Provider Independent (PI) Assignments for LIRs Dear Colleagues Consensus has been reached, and the proposal described in 2009-08 has been accepted by the RIPE community. The related RIPE policy document has now been updated, published and can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-481.html Note: This document also incorporates the changes coming from the proposal described in 2009-06, Removing Routing Requirements from the IPv6 Address Allocation Policy, for which consensus was also reached. You can find the full proposal at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2009-08.html Thank you for your input. Regards Ingrid Wijte Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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2009-06 Proposal Accepted (Removing Routing Requirements from the IPv6 Address Allocation Policy)
by Ingrid Wijte 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

PDP Number: 2009-06 Removing Routing Requirements from the IPv6 Address Allocation Policy Dear Colleagues Consensus has been reached, and the proposal described in 2009-06 has been accepted by the RIPE community. The related RIPE policy document has now been updated, published and can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-481.html Note: This document also incorporates the changes coming from the proposal described in 2009-08, IPv6 Provider Independent (PI) Assignments for LIRs, for which consensus was also reached. You can find the full proposal at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2009-06.html Thank you for your input. Regards Ingrid Wijte Policy Development Officer RIPE NCC

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agenda for upcoming APWG meeting
by Gert Doering 28 Sep '09

28 Sep '09

Hi APWG folks, below you can find a draft for the RIPE address policy WG meeting's agenda, which will take place in two weeks in Lissabon. This time, we the following three time slots: Wednesday, Oct 7, 09:00 - 10:30 Wednesday, Oct 7, 11:00 - 12:30 Thursday, Oct 8, 14:00 - 15:30 The exact time lines depend a bit on how much discussion is going on, so we might move items one time slot "up" or "down". If you have anything else you want to see on the agenda, or of we need to change anything, please let us know. The agenda is fairly lightly loaded so far, especially for the Thursday time slot, all we have is "if you have something in mind that needs discussion, this is the place to go". So we certainly welcome your input. regards, Gert Doering, APWG chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, 09:00-10:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A. Administrative Matters (welcome, thanking the scribe, approving the minutes, etc.) B. Current Policy Topics - Filiz Yilmaz - overview over concluded proposals 2009-05 [multiple IPv6 /32 allocations] - withdrawn 2008-05 [Anycast for ENUM] - accepted 2009-02 [Resources to the RIPE NCC] - accepted - overview over proposals currently in Last Call 2009-06 [Routing Requirements] 2009-07 [global ASN block policy] 2009-08 [IPv6 PI for LIRs] - common policy topics in all regions (end of IPv4, transfers, ...) C. Rough Edges of the current policies Report from the RIPE NCC Registration Services department on issues and unintended side-effects showing up in the daily implementation of the RIPE policies. (+ brief discussion) D. "Routing Issues" update At RIPE 58, we decided to work together with the routing WG to remove "routing policy" from the address policy documents, and have the routing WG come up with an updated routing recommendation document. This is to briefly summarize what this is all about and point to the document. Discussion should take place in the routing WG. E. Document Cosmetic Surgeries Project - Filiz Yilmaz (separate item from "B.", because it's really a separate activity - and this gives us a bit scheduling flexibility) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, 11:00-12:30 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- E. New Proposals since RIPE 58 overview about what's coming [5-10 min] F. Discussion of open policy proposals ---- various stuff, not directly related to IPv4 run-out --- 2006-05 PI Assignment Size [?? min] 2008-07 Ensuring Efficient Use of Historical IPv4 Resources (Philip Smith) 2008-08 Initial Certification Policy for PA Space Holders (Nigel Titley, CA TF) 2009-01 Global Policy for the allocation of IPv4 blocks to RIRs (5 RIR design team) ---- directly related to IPv4 run-out --- 2008-06 Use of Final /8 (Philip Smith) 2009-03 Run Out Fairly (Daniel Karrenberg) 2009-04 IPv4 Allocation and Assignments to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment (Alain Bidron) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday, 12:30-14:00 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- X. Ideas how to tackle any problems that have been experienced by the NCC Registration Services Department. (open discussion, based on the report and comments on Wednesday) Y. Open Policy Hour "The Open Policy Hour (OPH) is a showcase for your policy ideas. If you have a policy proposal you'd like to debut, prior to formally submitting it, here is your opportunity." (Idea from ARIN policy meeting) Z. AOB -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 141055 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279

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2009-03 New Draft Document Published (Run Out Fairly)
by Filiz Yilmaz 28 Sep '09

28 Sep '09

PDP Number: 2009-03 Run Out Fairly Dear Colleagues, The draft document for the proposal described in 2009-03 has been published. The impact analysis that was conducted for this proposal has also been published. You can find the full proposal at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2009-03.html and the draft document at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/ripe-471-draft2009-03.html We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 20 October 2009. Regards, Filiz Yilmaz Policy Development Manager RIPE NCC

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2009-07 Proposal Accepted (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks (ASNs) to Regional Internet Registries)
by Filiz Yilmaz 28 Sep '09

28 Sep '09

PDP Number: 2009-07 Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks (ASNs) to Regional Internet Registries Dear Colleagues, Consensus has been reached, and the proposal described in 2009-07 has been accepted by the RIPE community. The related RIPE policy document has now been updated, published and can be found at: ripe-480, "Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Policy for Allocation of ASN Blocks to Regional Internet Registries" http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-480.html The proposal is now archived and can be found at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2009-07.html Please note that this is a global policy and will therefore come into effect only after it has been accepted as a policy in all other RIR regions and then ratified by ICANN. Thank you for your input. Regards Filiz Yilmaz Policy Development Manager RIPE NCC

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ripe471 - language query
by David Freedman 25 Sep '09

25 Sep '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just a quick query w.r.t the ripe471 document relating to a conversation I had with another registry today who were confused by the use of the language: Section 5.3 (Additional Allocations) states: "An LIR may receive an additional allocation when about eighty percent (80%) of all the address space currently allocated to it is used in valid assignments or sub-allocations." Whereas Section 5.4 (Sub Allocations) states: "LIRs are still required to demonstrate about 80% usage for all their allocations." The question is therefore, do we mean: - - That all the address space currently allocated to the registry should be summed and if the registry consumes more than 80% of this they qualify for an additional allocation or - - That all allocations the registry has must each consume more than 80% before the registry qualifies for an additional allocation. and if so, could the language in the document be cleaned up to avoid such ambiguity? Dave. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq8n74ACgkQtFWeqpgEZrL9tgCfUbDNmABC8AfnJ4YU/Rd1waU0 Ga8Anjd3WAb1cuyQ/xvd0LH9Z9ZAFilo =q7Pd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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