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Proposal for change to the IPv4 PI allocation policy
by Mikael Abrahamsson 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Hello. Following a discussion between some people and the resulting request to bring the discussion here I would like to propose a change to allocation policy for small PI blocks. Today it's a problem that the ISP industry BCP involves filtering all announcements smaller than /24 from BGP, this meaning that a smaller allocation from RIPE is pretty much unusual in the "real world" if you want to be on the public internet. I would therefore like to see a discussion about making it an option to actually get a /24 for routing reasons, disregarding current policy of disallowing routing problems as justification to request an allocation bigger than you might be able to justify from address usage alone. I know I ran into this problem when I first started in the ISP business around 1995, and it's still there, so might it be time to change? People with enough experience will creatively "enhance" (ie lie) address requests to actually reach the /24 size today, and people without experience will make an honest request and then run into practical problems with their newly allocated space when they want to use it in real life, due to it being filtered because it's too small according to industry BCP. This is of course a bad situation either way and I hope it can be rectified. Thanks for your attention. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike(a)swm.pp.se

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[jeffc@surbl.org: Re: RIPE policy proposal on contact e-mail addresses]
by md＠Linux.IT 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

----- Forwarded message from Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> ----- From: Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> Reply-To: Jeff Chan <jeffc(a)surbl.org> Organization: SURBL To: Marco d'Itri <md(a)Linux.IT> Subject: Re: RIPE policy proposal on contact e-mail addresses Wednesday, August 23, 2006, 5:41:25 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Summary of Proposal: > This proposal suggests that working and up-to-date contact e-mail > addresses should be maintained at all times for address space that is > registered in the RIPE Database. > http://ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2006-04.html > If you want to argue for or against it please post to the address-policy > WG mailing list. Hello Marco, I don't have access to that list so could you relay my comments that current and accurate contact info should be required and that lack thereof should be possible grounds for de-allocation, depeering, disconnection, etc. Many of the most abusive spam gangs use completely fraudulent and broken contact info. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:jeffc@surbl.org http://www.surbl.org/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ciao, Marco

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2006-01 Discussion Period extended until 2 October 2006 (Provider Independent (PI) IPv6 Assignments for End User Organisations)
by Filiz Yilmaz 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

PDP Number: 2006-01 Provider Independent (PI) IPv6 Assignments for End User Organisations and PDP Number: 2006-02 IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy Dear Colleagues The Discussion Period for proposals 2006-01 and 2006-02 has been extended until 2 October 2006 2006-01 is intended to provide a solution for organisations that need IPv6 Provider Independent (PI) assignments and 2006-02 is to change the IPv6 Initial Allocation criteria, the End Site definition and assignment of multiple /48s to a single End Site as outlined in the "IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy". You can find the full proposals at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2006-01.html and http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2006-02.html We encourage you to review this policy proposal and send your comments to <address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net>. Regards Filiz Yilmaz RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer

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2005-12 Last Call for Comments (4-Byte AS Number Policy)
by Filiz Yilmaz 21 Aug '06

21 Aug '06

PDP Number: 2005-12 4-Byte AS Number Policy Dear Colleagues The proposal described in 2005-12 is now at its final stage. You can find the full proposal at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2005-12.html and the draft documents at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/2005-12-draft.html Please e-mail any final comments about this proposal to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 18 September 2006. We will publish the new policy after this date if we receive no objections. Regards Filiz Yilmaz RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer

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Second Call For Nominations for NRO Number Council Seat 2006
by Paul Rendek 09 Aug '06

09 Aug '06

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, This is a second call for nominations from the RIPE NCC service region to fill one vacant seat on the Number Resource Organization (NRO) Number Council (NC). The term of Sabine Jaume, who was elected in January 2004, expires in December 2006. The representative appointed by the Internet community for the NRO NC seat will serve a three-year term, beginning 1 January 2007. For more information about the NRO NC, nominations and the election process, see: http://www.ripe.net/info/resource-admin/nro2006/ Nominations can be sent to: nominations(a)ripe.net ========================================================================== Deadline for nominations: 4 September, 2006 Elections: 4 October, 2006, at the RIPE 53 Meeting, Amsterdam, the Netherlands =========================================================================== Regards, Paul Rendek Head of Member Services & Communications RIPE NCC

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Fw: [address-policy-wg] 2005-08 New Draft Documentis Published (Proposal to Amend the IPv6 Assignment and Utilisation Requirement Policy)
by Ian.Meikle＠nominet.org.uk 28 Jul '06

28 Jul '06

Hi, Both of these proposals change the onus on an LIR from having "... a plan for making at least 200 /48 assignments to other organisations within two years." to having "... a plan for making at least 200 assignments to other organisations within two years." While this increases flexibility it still has an arbritrary feel to it. Why 200 assignments? I can see that this is meant to prevent the numberspace becoming too fractured, so reducing the size of the routing table. However, I worry that it may have the side effect of imposing a hierarchy of ISPs within IPv6 that does not meet the requirements of smaller organisations. It seems there is little interest at present within the larger UK-based ISPs in providing IPv6, (with the exception of NTT-Verio), and this change won't affect that. Is there a better way to encourage the uptake of IPv6 without preventing exponential routing table growth? Ian ----- Forwarded by Ian Meikle/Nominet on 27/07/06 15:53 ----- Filiz Yilmaz <filiz(a)ripe.net> Sent by: address-policy-wg-admin(a)ripe.net 27/07/06 12:42 Please respond to filiz(a)ripe.net To policy-announce(a)ripe.net cc Hans Petter Holen <hph(a)oslo.net>, Kurtis Lindqvist <kurtis(a)kurtis.pp.se>, Geoff Huston <gih(a)apnic.net>, address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net Subject [address-policy-wg] 2005-08 New Draft Documentis Published (Proposal to Amend the IPv6 Assignment and Utilisation Requirement Policy) PDP Number: 2005-08 Proposal to Amend the IPv6 Assignment and Utilisation Requirement Policy Dear Colleagues As you might remember, it was decided during RIPE 51 that the proposal described in 2005-08, "Proposal to Amend the IPv6 Assignment and Utilisation Requirement Policy" should be split into two parts. Accordingly, we have published two draft documents. You can find the draft documents at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/2005-08-56s.html defining allocation efficiency measurement unit as /56 and http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/2005-08-hd-ratio.html changing the HD ratio value to 0.94 You can find the full proposal at: http://ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2005-08.html We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 24 August 2006. Kind regards, Filiz Yilmaz RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer

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2005-08 New Draft Documentis Published (Proposal to Amend the IPv6 Assignment and Utilisation Requirement Policy)
by Filiz Yilmaz 27 Jul '06

27 Jul '06

PDP Number: 2005-08 Proposal to Amend the IPv6 Assignment and Utilisation Requirement Policy Dear Colleagues As you might remember, it was decided during RIPE 51 that the proposal described in 2005-08, "Proposal to Amend the IPv6 Assignment and Utilisation Requirement Policy" should be split into two parts. Accordingly, we have published two draft documents. You can find the draft documents at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/2005-08-56s.html defining allocation efficiency measurement unit as /56 and http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/2005-08-hd-ratio.html changing the HD ratio value to 0.94 You can find the full proposal at: http://ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2005-08.html We encourage you to read the draft document text and send any comments to address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net before 24 August 2006. Kind regards, Filiz Yilmaz RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer

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Call For Nominations for NRO Number Council Seat 2006
by Paul Rendek 25 Jul '06

25 Jul '06

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, This is a call for nominations from the RIPE NCC service region to fill one vacant seat on the Number Resource Organization (NRO) Number Council (NC). The term of Sabine Jaume, who was elected in January 2004, expires in December 2006. Due to an administrative error, this call for nominations is issued after the prescribed 90-day pre-election period as suggested in the NRO NC election process. We are confident that we will secure qualified candidates within the remaining time. The representative appointed by the Internet community for the NRO NC seat will serve a three-year term, beginning 1 January 2007. ========================================================================== Deadline for nominations: 4 September, 2006 Elections: 4 October, 2006, at the RIPE 53 Meeting, Amsterdam, the Netherlands =========================================================================== For more information about the NRO NC, nominations and the election process, see: http://www.ripe.net/info/resource-admin/nro2006/ Regards, Paul Rendek Head of Member Services & Communications RIPE NCC

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91.192/10 to be used for PI assignments to End Users
by leo vegoda 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

Dear Colleagues, At recent RIPE Meetings, we have reported a steady rise in requests from our members for Provider Independent (PI) address space for End User networks. We have reclaimed and recycled space from closed Local Internet Registries to meet this demand, but we are nearing the point where the available PI space will run out. In the past, we made PI assignments from former Class C space (193/8 and 194/7). Because of the increasing demand for PI space, we made sure that we would be able to use some of our most recent allocation of address space to meet future requests. We have designated 91.192/10 for PI assignments to End User networks. When the former Class C space is exhausted, we will start to make PI assignments from 91.192/10. We will let you know when this happens. We are announcing a pilot prefix using the RIS beacons, you may want to update any filters that you have in place. The RIS beacons are announcing the following networks: 91.192.0.0/24 91.192.0.0/16 You can ping 91.192.0.1. Full details of reachable IP addresses and tools are available on our web site at: http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon/debogon.html Regards, -- leo vegoda Registration Services Manager RIPE NCC

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2006-01 & 2006-02 Discussion Period extended until 17 August 2006
by Filiz Yilmaz 06 Jul '06

06 Jul '06

PDP Number: 2006-01 Provider Independent (PI) IPv6 Assignments for End User Organisations and PDP Number: 2006-02 IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy Dear Colleagues The Discussion Period for proposals 2006-01 and 2006-02 has been extended until 17 August 2006. 2006-01 is intended to provide a solution for organisations that need IPv6 Provider Independent (PI) assignments and 2006-02 is to change the IPv6 Initial Allocation criteria, the End Site definition and assignment of multiple /48s to a single End Site as outlined in the "IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy". You can find the full proposals at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2006-01.html and http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2006-02.html We encourage you to review these policy proposals and send your comments to <address-policy-wg(a)ripe.net>. Regards Filiz Yilmaz RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer

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