On 28 Jul 2011, at 09:35, Martin Millnert wrote:
this message of yours explains for me that you have not really understood why or what people are having issues with, with these issues.
With respect Martin, you couldn't be more wrong. And anyway the next steps are not about what I might or might not understand or the issues raised in the last-minute objections to 2008-08. It's also not about "cheating the policy process" either. Nobody has suggested it was. It's about reconciling two (three?) mutually exclusive community decisions. We have a situation where the membership has authorised the NCC to develop an address certification system. This has been going on for years. It was the settled will of RIPE too. [Though that goes back to the days before the PDP existed.] We've all taken a punt that by the time this system was ready, there would be a consensus policy for it in place. 2008-08 is now dead. But the current mandate to the NCC is still in effect. A vote of the membership is needed to change that mandate. In my opinion, this is also the least bad way to proceed. Please note I did not say what that decision should be. Again. While you're right in theory to say we could start all over again and come up with a new address certification policy, I doubt it will work in practice. Positions seem too entrenched on all sides to find a compromise. I wonder too if consensus is now possible or if that can be reached in a reasonable amount of time. 2008-08 chugged along for 3 years and was apparently non-controversial.