Hi, On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:40:35AM +0200, Marc van Selm wrote:
Speaking as a network operator (not as WG co-chair) I would be fairly unhappy with a PI policy that permits "about anyone" to get PI - because PI is very unbalanced regarding "who benefits, and who pays for it".
True you have a good point here that is worth exploring.
So how do we seperate then the "about anyone" from "those that need".
Can't say.
I personally do not think the community should judge than one has a need and try to cast that in stone in some form of policy. But one could demand a sound justication in the request for PI that describes why PI is vital/important. This is to be judged by the RIR. Would adjusting the policy in that direction make sense? I know that this will take resourses of the RIR but I think it is fair that the requester should pay for that.
I understand what you're aiming for, but the problem is - the RIRs system doesn't work that way. The RIRs enforce the policy that the community (*we*) agree upon. Consider the RIRs "the executive arm of the community will" - so we need to provide clear guidance to the RIRs on "what's ok" and "what's not ok" - otherwise the hostmasters need to make up rules, and people will find themselves quite surprised at the outcome "now *that* is not what we imagined". Specifically in this case: the RIRs don't look at our routes, don't feel the pain of "too many routes", can't decide on "what will ISPs route?", and so on. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 92315 SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 D- 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-234