25 Mar
2005
25 Mar
'05
9:05 a.m.
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:41:18 +0000, Jon Lawrence wrote: >> PI will come or IPv6 not fly. Face it. Full Ack. You won't force company decision makers to get back into the mercy of a single ISP and become dependent from it. Not with policies. You would have to order the army ;-/ >We don't push them now ?? - even the big guys ?? >If even they don't push their routers hard, then even with phenomenal growth >over the next 5 years or so then what ever the current routers are then will >probably be able to cope. >If the routers can cope then the size of the routing table becomes a non issue >- that's what I'm trying to say. *Todays* routers *are* able to handle +20K prefixes. And if they don't, the ISP has to *invest* into new gear. An ISP is a company like any other company, if the market requests that doors and windows should be build with 1mm precision, it won't help the carpenters with old manufacturing equipment to make a policy which defines that 5mm precision is good enough. Face it: Customers demand provider independent address space and multihoming, as a IPv6 provider you may either deliver some solution or you won't sell your product. There is enough IPv4 PI competition ... Best Regards Oliver P.s.: - A good *Engineer* would think of a router beeing capable of >>1 Mio. prefix entries with >>100K different paths. And yes, this is possible. And no, there are customers who need more than 640KB of memory, and yes, there are PC's with more than 640KB ... - A good *Marketing Guy* would then sell Engineers products with the Label "IPv6-PI-ready" and would create a new "this is hip you must have it" *premium* IPv6 product which permits $customer to just *install* his IPv6 prefix at the ISP of his choice. If $customer is on vacation: Just install the prefix there. Such "Customer: you should not have this and that" policies are for the buerocrats (the bad ones, a good buerocrat would see its job in assigning the "IPv6-PI-ready" label ;-) and the market has shown that such policies don't survive. Ceterum Censeo: Either IPv6 PI routing or IPv6 will die. Oliver Bartels F+E + Bartels System GmbH + 85435 Erding, Germany oliver@bartels.de + http://www.bartels.de + Tel. +49-8122-9729-0