So - I can see there is support for "changing the identifiers to help people see where it's coming from", and I think we should leave the details to the nice folks at the RIPE NCC - I've brought it up there, and I'm sure it will be considered thoroughly and a proposal will come up that is a workable compromise of what has been said. Oops, typo coming up. It should of course be "I DO think that .. I don't think that a different naming scheme in document identifiers is a poor substitute for a decent lookup system. What people are actual asking for is a decent way to find RIPE (drafts-) documents. And that by various methods (keyword search, search by workgroup, policy type). One might be better of with something like the IETF <http://tools.ietf.org/html/> or the tools on <http://tools.ietf.org/html/> then a "trick to encode a look up scheme in an identifier". (Thnk DNS versus a Google search). jaap