Hello; On Apr 20, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Pekka Savola wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Joao Damas wrote:
As has been discussed at ARIN, this is a good way to get the government to declare the RIR a monopoly engaging in anticompetitive behavior. I for one don't want that.
Pekka, this doesn't sound like the right way to do policy, and yes, things that smell like "big guys get it, small guys don't" will be looked at suspiciously and rightly so. Criteria ought to be of a technical nature.
I'm assuming this is already in reference to, "PI should cost money" instead of "PI shouldn't be available, period"...
Larger end-sites already have 10-20k+ annual budget (most have much, much larger than that): caused by CAPEX by getting at least two routers, OPEX by paying to multiple ISPs for fibers, transit, etc. and salaries of network engineering staff.
Yes, but I know many of people (including myself and basically all of my clients) who would regard a $ 5K tax as pretty onerous. You also run the risk of giving people the feeling that the system is weighted towards the large stakeholders. Now, I do not feel that way, but I hear from plenty of people who do, and it's hard to see how they wouldn't take it this way. Regards Marshall
AFAICS, whether or not a PI space would cost 0, 1000 or 5000 USD a year is NOT a barrier for entry. It's just *one* metric (you may be able to think of technical metrics that could imply the same, I can't) to say, "if you REALLY don't need this, it'd be nice if you seriously consider PA address space".
Don't want PI: propose a feasible alternative that provides the same functionality under the current routing system, while looking for a better system
Use PA addresses and Unique Local Addresses if you really think you need them. Push for shim6. Put some work on solving the remaining problems if there really are any that aren't caused by the desire to graze the commons for free.
Maybe I should have snipped this quote, as this seems like a rathole which isn't worth exploring (again) here...
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