On 2016 May 09 (Mon) at 14:19:43 +0200 (+0200), Riccardo Gori wrote: :Hi Sander, : :Il 09/05/2016 10:42, Sander Steffann ha scritto: :>Hello Ehsan, :> :>>we are agree about the Last /8 Allocation Criteria Revision proposal . :>>https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-05 :>thank you for expressing your support. However, at this point in the discussion we have seen enough support but not enough work solving the objections that have een raised. That is what is needed currently to work towards consensus. Without addressing those objections this policy proposal gets stuck. :Can you please summarize us the main objections about this 2015-05 policy so :that people can try to address a solution to those? My main objection to this proposal is simple: It depletes the available pool for _new_ participants faster. I strongly believe any new actor should be able to go from zero to non-zero with the addresses available from RIPE. For an actor with non-zero addresses to get more addresses, there is a secondary market. Since that is the base of my objection, I do not see any way that a middle ground can be met. Based on my understanding of the other objections, I believe this is held by at least a few others from the objection side. I appreciate the effort put into this proposal, but I do not think any solution can be proposed. (note: my stance is based on forming a LIR simply to get any amount of announcable addresses.) -- Quick!! Act as if nothing has happened!