Hello, WG. I understand you will approve this proposal in any case, you have made a decision in January and should comply with formalities. However I see many companies began to open multi LIR accounts and receive additional allocations. E.g. netname: NL-PCXCOP-20150707 netname: NL-PCXMAD-20150707 netname: DK-BORNFIBER5-20150709 netname: DK-BORNFIBER9-20150709 netname: ES-RULZ2-20150710 netname: ES-RULZ3-20150710 netname: ES-SUNNY2-20150710 netname: ES-SUNNY3-20150710 Traders don't want to lose their profit and will begin to provide services to help open new accounts for the same company and companies will be do it by themselves. Thus IPv4 pool will be exhausted during 1-2 years. I understand the RIPE NCC dislike someone makes profit using RIPE's resources but we should not make emotional decisions. 06.07.2015, 01:44, "Jim Reid" <jim@rfc1035.com>:
On 5 Jul 2015, at 20:05, Petr Umelov <petr@fast-telecom.net> wrote:
So I suggest to return this proposal to discussion phase.
That’s not how it’s done. The discussion phase for the proposal is OVER. The WG has just about reached consensus. At this stage of the PDP (Last Call) we assess whether that consensus determination is valid or not. Last Call also gives everyone a final chance to raise NEW issues which did not get attention during the proposal’s discussion phase.
If there are new issues, please go ahead and raise them. Your latest message seems to be going over the same old ground. If you are doing that, don’t. It's inappropriate and unhelpful. [And just a waste of everyone’s time too.] Please stop posting more of the same stuff that the WG has heard. The WG has addressed those concerns already.
If there is something substantive to your latest posting apart from that earlier discussion, please state clearly what those new issue(s) are and explain how/why they were not addressed during the discussion phase. You’ve certainly not done that yet. Nobody’s found any fault with the summary of the proposal discussion that Sander posted a couple of weeks ago.
I would be happy to support returning this proposal to the discussion phase, but only if there are compelling reasons to do so. To date nobody has made the case for taking that action. Although some have asked for this, nobody has put forward anything to justify these requests. The case has not been made yet. It’s up to you and your fellow travellers to make that case.
-- Kind regards, Petr Umelov