-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Somewhat inevitably, starting a discussion about how 2008-08 would be received by those with legal power (not just governments), led us if not off-topic then at least into a broad discussion that confuses the real issue before us. I believe the question that this WG has to answer is "Do we believe that, on balance, adopting this policy will do more harm than good?". I suggested that adopting and deploying 2008-08 might over time result in more route hijacking rather than less, when you include the risk of hijacks conducted under legal compulsion. If I may summarise the answers I've heard by way of caricature, they are: - - "you're imagining things you silly conspiracy theorist" - - "if you don't like what the government does vote for someone else" - - "this will help prevent hijack attempts by criminals, which is our responsibility; preventing hijack attempts by lawyers is not our responsibility". (There was also "we've been working on this for years and spent loads of money, we can't stop now" and "do you have a better idea?", but neither of these address the question of whether this does more harm than good). Like most people, I don't want to continue reciting the arguments indefinitely. Nonetheless, I should say clearly that I don't find that any of the arguments that fall within the categories caricatured above make me feel any more comfortable that 2008-08 is a good and necessary proposal or that the world will be a better place if it is adopted. It seems that a number of other people also believe 2008-08 is negative on balance. Presumably the WG chairs will therefore conclude there is no consensus in its favour. I remain interested to hear the answer to my question about what the RIPE NCC intends to do if there is no consensus to approve 2008-08. Malcolm. - -- Malcolm Hutty | tel: +44 20 7645 3523 Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog London Internet Exchange | http://publicaffairs.linx.net/ London Internet Exchange Ltd Maya House, 134-138 Borough High Street, London SE1 1LB Company Registered in England No. 3137929 Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3nXUQACgkQJiK3ugcyKhT7vwCgu6AnSQzUUcvMV9gw8OYNLEog Fi8AoN1miGAlveZObNsUkFGlPcPNURD8 =SI5N -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----