Dear Colleagues,

we have all to thank Eric for the hard work done. When the proposal apperead I thought it was good and would approve such content.
In its essence is really fair and clean but the matter is highly complicated.

I agree with the board and even Eric evaluated this kind of problem in his Rational analisys Opposing the proposal when he says the word slight change make the document generic.
Generic in this case makes it dangerous.

I would take care also of board point here:
[...]
This has the potential to complicate future policy development activity, and it is expected that increased efforts will be needed to explain to the RIPE NCC membership and other stakeholders which policy document applies in which situations,
[...]

More colleages consider that standing to the Board opinion (and I agree) this will not affect in any way m&a and maybe we will never have a document that does it for many reasons.

My opinion is to do not touch anaything at this time.

We can ask the Board to consider the matter of entity and more Local Internet Registries.
Yes the answer is still yes it is legitime, let it be like other thinks happened in the past and do your best to think 6.
If the answer is no it can be touched maybe we can do something on that and slow down a potencial growing burning trend.

kind regads
Riccardo

Il 17/11/2015 18:01, Sander Steffann ha scritto:

Hello working group,

You can find the full proposal and the impact analysis at:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-04

Thanks to Marco and the rest of the RIPE NCC for this extensive impact analysis.

This impact analysis uncovers a very serious issue that has slipped under our radar in the "Entities That Can Receive a Transfer". The issue raised from the RIPE NCC Executive Board looks completely legitimate to us.

For those of you who haven't read the impact analysis yet, this is the core of the issue:

The RIPE NCC impact analysis notes that acceptance of this proposal could significantly affect the stability of the RIR system as a whole by allowing transfer of any resource (including assigned PA space) to any entity including one that is not a member of the RIPE NCC (or any other RIR).

This is a serious issue that will affect all of us. The chairs take this issue into the consensus-reaching process and we ask the authors and working group to address this.

Your working group chairs,
Gert and Sander

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