On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Lea Roberts wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006, Roger Jorgensen wrote:
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Nick Hilliard wrote:
The nice thing about Internet (as opposed to the telephone system) is the fact that we have DNS - and thus no need to take our "numbers" with us to be reachable. This is certainly the theory. However, if you are a growing ISP, renumbering from PA space from another LIR to your own PI space or LIR/PA space can be - depending on how your customers are configured -
Gert Doering wrote: pure pain.
The portability associated with PI space is also important in one other view, in that it allows the holder to switch providers quickly and efficiently. There's no tie-in of any form, and this is something which is extremely important to business. So what you are saying are we need a better way to configure, reconfigure/change the connection to the end-users/customers? Thought IPv6 was suppose to solve that issue. IPv6 has made it possible to renumber the network almost automatically. it seems possible to make that change without a "flag day" and an outage. however, the tools are mostly *NOT* there for similarly easy renumbering of router ACLs and firewall configs and DNS, so as the size of the network increases, large organizations are saying there is still a significant cost to renumbering (at this time...). one can only hope that appropriate tools will be developed to make full renumbering reasonably painless.
exactly! Let's use the time creatig the tools, create some standards and guidelines on HOWTO renumber instead of spending time reduing the same mistakes done in IPv4. We now have the change to save ourself from alot of trouble ~10-15years into the future...
or the appropriate protocol enhancements are made so that local numbers become much less relevant to global routing? /Lea
This would be an even better solution, but... it'll take time.... -- ------------------------------ Roger Jorgensen | roger@jorgensen.no | - IPv6 is The Key! -------------------------------------------------------