If you need/want more IPv4 addresses, the marketplace is available. RIPE should not give more addresses to people that already have some. Growth into a market that should be killed, should not be encouraged by RIPE. On 2016 Apr 14 (Thu) at 15:51:56 +0100 (+0100), ripe@scholarwebservices.com wrote: : : :Hello, : :I am in favour of the proposal. Similar to Aled's comments below, we are :a small entity that is restricted to growth with a single /22. I believe :the 185/8 should be restricted to new entrants but allowing :recycled/returned address space (outside of the 185/8) to be allocated, :providing the LIR has less than a /20 in total. : :Kind regards, : :Gavin : :On 2016-04-14 15:34, Aled Morris wrote: : :> Peter, :> :> I agree with the proposal because it makes it possible for recent entrants into the market to grow. Speaking on behalf of such an entity, it's difficult to grow when you're limited to your one /22 in today's market. We (as an industry) are not there with IPv6 for this to be the only option. :> :> Ring-fencing 185/8 for new LIRs is sensible, this policy is really about recycling returned addresses and solves a real problem for a lot of recent new entrants. :> :> Of course we are all working on introducing IPv6 but I think we need this policy as it complements the allocation from 185/8 for new LIRs with a fair mechanism for nurturing LIRs who have filled their initial allocation. :> :> Aled :> :> On 14 April 2016 at 13:51, Peter Hessler <phessler@theapt.org> wrote: :> :>> While I appreciate that there are more restricions on who is eligable to :>> receive new allocations, I am still opposed to this proposal for the :>> simple reason of "it depletes the IPv4 pool faster, and causes problems :>> for new entrants". :>> :>> -- :>> Anybody can win, unless there happens to be a second entry. : -- The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. -- Oscar Wilde