Replying to two messages in one go.. On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Jon Lawrence wrote:
On Thursday 17 June 2004 10:20, Pekka Savola wrote:
I saw that -- but I don't see *any* justification for this interpretation. Remember, the goal is to require 200 assignments to *other* organizations, not be satisfied that you can make 200 assignemnts to your internal network, or 100 assignments to your internal network and 100 to other organizations!
And this is part of the problem. We won't be rolling IPv6 out ot 200 customers any time soon. So we can't get an allocation. Thus we can't run trials with IPv6. I really fail to see the reason behind the 200 other organisation rule - perhaps somee one would like to explain the logic.
Now, this is another argument *altogether*, not a reason to start counting internal assignments. If we want to discuss whether rewording the 200 customers rule needs tuning, let's discuss that. I think the spirit (and the implementation) of the policy is that if you have 200 customers which *might* want IPv6 (but you haven't seen actual interest from 200 customers), and you'd be willing to give it to them if they asked, you'd qualify under the "200" rule in any case. Nobody will be withdrawing your allocation just because all your customers didn't yet realize that IPv6 is a good thing. Bertrand Maujean <bertrand.maujean@semnet.tm.fr>:
we face the same problem. We are a small internet access provider in France. We provide internet in residential areas, and our customers currently use less than one IPv4 address per home.
Because they use NAT with IPv4. They won't with IPv6, so they require sufficient number of addresses -- at least a /64, and in case they'd want to subnet, a /48. The simplest would be just giving /48 to everyone.
We do not want to assign a /48 to all our customers only to meet RIPE's criteria.
Do you mean that you don't want to give the users a /48, but rather something smaller, like /64? That's a bad idea IMHO.
We prefer using only a /32 for each of our broadband access server, and /48 only for customers asking for it (ie : customers who have a router, several subnets, ...).
/32 for each broadband access router? How many /32's do you intend to get??! :) Was this a typo? Why not just give /48 to everyone whether they want it or not? Or at least reserve /48 to everyone, but only assign a /64 or the like if they don't support prefix delegation or other mechanisms? That way you'd fulfill the allocation criteria as well, and make the users happier. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings