All these words about IPv4 "exhaustion" and evil "abusers" is just a screen to reach some goals for some group of people. I think all sane people understand it perfectly. We already see some consequences of this proposal even BEFORE its acceptance (as Petr Umelov wrote): request count for IPv4 allocations has grow. 11.07.2015, 21:52, "Vladimir Andreev" <vladimir@quick-soft.net>:
Current proposal supporters may also need cheap IP's so this hole will not be closed.
It's time to spell out that current proposal never had an aim to reduce IPv4 exhaustion.
11.07.2015, 21:47, "Petr Umelov" <petr@fast-telecom.net>:
Don't tell then I did not warn :)
When you will come to your senses and will start the multi LIR hole closing during 6 months, IPv4 will be exhausted
11.07.2015, 21:39, "Jan Ingvoldstad" <frettled@gmail.com>:
On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Petr Umelov <petr@fast-telecom.net> wrote:
Hello, WG.
I understand you will approve this proposal in any case, you have made a decision in January and should comply with formalities.
However I see many companies began to open multi LIR accounts and receive additional allocations.
E.g. netname: NL-PCXCOP-20150707 netname: NL-PCXMAD-20150707
netname: DK-BORNFIBER5-20150709 netname: DK-BORNFIBER9-20150709
netname: ES-RULZ2-20150710 netname: ES-RULZ3-20150710
netname: ES-SUNNY2-20150710 netname: ES-SUNNY3-20150710
Traders don't want to lose their profit and will begin to provide services to help open new accounts for the same company and companies will be do it by themselves.
Thus IPv4 pool will be exhausted during 1-2 years.
I understand the RIPE NCC dislike someone makes profit using RIPE's resources but we should not make emotional decisions.
Absolutely, and therefore I suggest that since the above appears to be a big problem for you, that you write down a proposal that will handle this particular problem.
Most people want to scratch their itch, and if you scratch it by writing a proposal, your itch can, perhaps, be scratched too.
But if you don't write that proposal, nothing will happen, and maybe your worst fears will come true, through your own inaction.
It's best that those who see a problem, are the ones to attempt addressing it. -- Jan
-- Kind regards, Petr Umelov
-- With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503
-- With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503