Oliver Bartels wrote:
There *are* different interests. Period.
Agree. You and some others like "a true independence resource", others really don't care as long as it works, some don't like to pay money as long is not needed, some don't like to pick up the work, some probably don't like changes, some others probably don't like the outcome and what it does mean and others ... This is why we are talking about it. While you are open to swap your PIs out of our A-U, others would never consider renumbering as an option. Different interests, different approaches ...
There is no gurantee at all that not tomorrow someone decides to sell your divsion to an x far east hedge fonds, which then decides to close the german NOC including your position, monetarize everything regardless of the rights of PI holders etc.
Either PI holders have rights or they don't. In your other email you stated
This means: Your company knew, what they bought, and they knew, that there were third party rights *already*.
Why wouldn't this be valid for Far East hedge funds?
About the "does not block maintainers". This is an agreement / outcome of an old discussion between RIPE NCC and us as LIR years ago. [...] PI space should show up in the database as: mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-END-MNT mnt-by: resource-holder-MNT and there is no reason to lock out the resource holder as it is practiced. Regardless who says this, there are rules.
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