Hi Gert:

I am very much surprise with your reply.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:

Hi,

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:50:30AM +0200, Lu Heng wrote:
> Chair, do you agree with me? This is policy mailing list about policy and
> not about individuals or specific companies' activity. Please clarify this
> to the community because this is not the first time personally attack
> happening here(and not just to me and my company).

Actually I can't see a personal attack here. I do see provable facts put
on the table, which might reflect in a way that you might not like, but that
is the usual problem with transparency. All the data about, for example,
37.222.0.0/15 is available in the RIPE DB "--show-version <x>" output.

Put up a fact without statement is fine with me, putting up our IP range from the past is some how personal in my opinion, accusing me and my company "Abuser" is a statement in the public space without solicit evidence in which I first did not see the relevance to policy discussion, secondly it is unlawful as well.

While I do consider this only partially relevant to the policy proposal
under discussion, it *is* giving a background on what is happening or
has happened outside the last /8 range, and some of these transfers indeed
make the "30x /22 fast-transferred" issue look fairly marginal.

Here are two fundamental problem to your wording:

1. The policy proposal under discussion is about protect the original intent of the last /8, in which the IP mentioned before has nothing to do with.

2. Because it was legal to kill anyone on the street 1000 years ago does not justify for preventing pass a law today to prevent future killing, in another words, whatever happened in the past should has no relevance to this policy.

(And please DO NOT top-post, quoting a full mailing list digest underneath
- *this* is something which might get the chair slightly angry)

I was replied on the daily summary mode of the mailing list, this was just normal to it, and now I turned it off.

Gert Doering
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Lu

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