On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, at 10:42, Lu Heng wrote:
As I understand, more and more end user are becoming LIR as their ISP refuse to give them IP, therefore it fundamentally changed the very definition of LIR.
The outbreak in the member mailing list last time reminds us how big that group could be.
What current ISP doing nowadays, instead of charging customer and apply to RIPE for their customer's IP, they ask their customer come to RIPE to become their own LIR and get their own IP then manage it for the customer. In which, results what we see today, shipping companies, banks, even airlines become LIR.
Hi, This is exactly the point where the community failed. We keep saying that there is no more IPv4, and in the meanwhile more and more companies (non-ISP) discover that they can still get their needed IPv4 space, with the bonus of becoming provider independent. In the process of doing this, they "eat up" a /22 even if they only need a /23 or a /24 (or less, but that can't be routed). At the same time they still hear (for more than 10 years already) that IPv6 is coming, but still don't see it "coming close enough" (no, they don't really care about Google, FB, and Netflix - and if they do, it's more about how to block them).