i'll try to see in the future... Small LIR will register on different company (or daughter) LIR just to take a "only one /22" many other companies will becoma a LIR just to take v4 IPs. It's cheaper than >10 EUR/ip, right (this is already happening). Imagine after some period of time how much voting power they will have ! Well, this proposal may be accepted or may not, but in several years... think about it, will there be a v4 space for a new entrance hmmm Following is to those who will vote "against" Don't think only for the upcoming LIRs, try to understand current ones with "only one /22" ...and don't run away with "membership is for voting, not for space allocation" because with your vote you'll decide allocation p.s. why unused space can be owned by non-working companies? and this space comes on market like "never announced space" - who need of such space Cheers, Momchil On 17.4.2016 г. 11:42 ч., Lu Heng wrote:
Hi
I think an more interesting break down would be the companies' business(e.g the industry they are in)
As I understand, more and more end user are becoming LIR as their ISP refuse to give them IP, therefore it fundamentally changed the very definition of LIR.
The outbreak in the member mailing list last time reminds us how big that group could be.
What current ISP doing nowadays, instead of charging customer and apply to RIPE for their customer's IP, they ask their customer come to RIPE to become their own LIR and get their own IP then manage it for the customer. In which, results what we see today, shipping companies, banks, even airlines become LIR.
On Sunday 17 April 2016, Gert Doering <gert@space.net <mailto:gert@space.net>> wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 09:52:15AM +0300, Adrian Pitulac wrote: > I see the same explanation again and again and again. But I see no real > argument from you guys. No statistics, no trending, no prediction, just > "keep the ipv4 last longer". Can you do better than that?
Marco has provided statistics about the IPv4 pool runout, broken down by "185" and "other addresses returned". These show that while the total number of addresses in the NCC stock is sort of "keeping up", about half of 185 is used up - so with the current trend going on, 185 will be used up in 2018-2019 or so
https://labs.ripe.net/Members/marco_schmidt/taking-a-closer-look-at-the-last...
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