Hi, On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 12:24:14PM +0200, Joao Damas wrote:
People are requesting *multiple* PI blocks because they can't get a PA allocation, and that seems to be just wrong to me.
Just to spell it out clearly:
- Is it people who do not meet the minimum allocation size for PA? I guess these ones would ask for a single PI assignment?
The ones I've heard about is "people that are startup ISPs, and still too small for PA". So they get a PI (because that's all they can get), and when that's full, they get another PI, and so on, until they can demonstrate "utilization of a /21" - and then they go for PA. They are effectively using PI as a "easier to get PA substitute" - which is wrong, but points at a serious problem in the policy.
- Is it people who find it to be so much hassle to get an allocation that they end up requesting multiple PI blocks with the same amount of addresses?
After a while, they move from your first category to this one...
- People who have multiple sites and if they get a normal PA block will need to split it and end up with a bunch of non-routable sites?
As far as I know, not this. [..]
One last thing. There is something that makes it unusually attractive to have PI space: it usually comes from "old" blocks (192/8, 193-195/8) where you don't have to bother with anyone filtering you if you have at least a /24 (damn easy to justify).
But this only works if you actually *get* a /24. So people that run two servers have to lie to the NCC to get a /24 (instead of a /29 or a /28), which is also a hint at a broken policy. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 56535 (56318) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299