Hi! As I can see, the main idea of these threads is large carriers trying to implement a kind of trust agreement policy (monopoly) that deny non-carriers (ideally small carriers too) to be the independent part of the Internet, but only their end-users. Like it is now in PSTN. If the community accept that, your though will be denied too. The main question is Internet is for carriers (' profit) or carriers is for Internet (community). What is the main thing?
A thought just crossed my mind:
those of you striving to deny slots in the routing tables to non-LIRs, what do you think about splitting a PA and announcing parts out of different AS'es ? This isn't really a de-aggregate, serves the 'address conservation' constraint but is utilizing routing table space. Wasn't the 'sub-allocation' type intended for this and must have had some consensus to become implemented ?
Maybe there should be added a PA allocation rule that each PA has to be announced only out of one AS.
No ? We can't do this ? Why not ? Be splitting PA's this way the LIR create a address space type that can be moved along very similar to PI, just without being handed out directly to the customer.
Would be an idea: I split one of our PA into /24's and lend them to enterprise customers free for announcement via their favourite ISP charging a yearly fee (obvisously the fee only for administering the RIPE data, as charging for addresses isn't allowed.).
Marcus
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Gerdon" <marcus.gerdon@mainz-kom.de> To: <address-policy-wg@ripe.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Re: a consensus, about what?
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