Hi Lu, On 6/10/2015 11:50 AM, Lu Heng wrote:
Hi Ciprian:
Since it become personal attack again, I feel the need to responds. But at least this time it was not random gmail address used by someone to hide their identity. So I will responds:
I would never hide when wanting to express my opinions. I don't have anything personal with you, it is a random example of the many abuses that I have noticed and I stick to my opinion that it was an abuse.
Here is your example and my company happened to be the receivee to all of three allocation you have mentioned.
Not your company, I've checked the original inetnums and at that time the allocations were made to you as a natural person.
My company as far as I can see, has growth substantially in past 3 years, while I receive the allocation, there is no one I know from the hostmaster team and in fact, I had huge debate with one of the hostmasters back then, elvis, strong argument, days and nights argument, I can tell you, it was not easy to get these allocations. And all the allocation I received was according to the policy.
It is very interesting to find out that the IPs were allocated to you by the same person that has initiated this proposal.
You are accusing me "abuse", please provide evident since you are doing it in a public space.
That is my opinion based on the facts that I already mentioned.
And to best of my knowledge, RIPE NCC board has never been involved in any of the registration process, will never do so as well, i am very much double that you have been told you need to have board approval for your allocation request(if one of current board member are reading this, please help to clarify).
Well, maybe it was not your case since you were showing a very convincing growth exactly in the last year. Unlike you the company I worked for was just a simple corporation with over 5000 employees, over 2 million subscribers and yes, I was denied a /13, only received about half and that was after the thorough analysis. Below is the mail I received confirming this:
Because of the size, the request will go now through an approval process that involves the RIPE NCC management. This may take up to 3 working days. This means that the size of the request is not approved yet and might change depending on the outcome of the approval process.
If there are any questions do please let me know.
Regards,
David Hilario RIPE NCC IP Resource Analyst
More over, receiving large IP space does not equal to large ISP, I think this is just common knowledge. There are tons of IP intensive service out there in which has nothing to do with individual customers(CDN for example).
Hope this clarify things and the subject should not be bought up at personal level again.
Yes, right, I'm sure you make a good point and everything is reasonable. Sorry for being unable to understand your arguments.
Chair, do you agree with me? This is policy mailing list about policy and not about individuals or specific companies' activity. Please clarify this to the community because this is not the first time personally attack happening here(and not just to me and my company).
I don't seek anyone's agreement, I'm presenting facts and raising questions. The final one would be: Is this policy going to protect the value of the assets that were obtained through abuse in the past ? Yours, Ciprian Nica