Hi Tore Before I dig deeper into what you said let me first focus on two points that you just made. On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 at 16:34, Tore Anderson <tore@fud.no> wrote:
Hello Emmanuel, and thank you for your message!
Please find our comments and questions inline below:
Did this consultation take the information in the Impact Analysis into account – in particular the clarification made by the RIPE NCC that 2023-04 does *not* change the current policies and procedures when it comes to the registration requirements for End User contact information?
This is NOT clarified at all in the Impact Analysis. Why are you still saying this when I know, you know and by now probably every one knows, it is simply NOT true. You acknowledged again in your reply to me yesterday that this proposal removes that famous line from the current policy: "When an End User has a network using public address space this must be registered separately with the contact details of the End User." Removing this line *does* change current policies and would change procedures if the RIPE NCC was enforcing the current policy. We have been through this so many times. This is a very clear statement that says ALL assignments MUST contain the End User contact details. Removing this line means that assignments no longer need to contain any End User contact details. That is a significant change to the details that may or may not be entered into future assignment objects.
As clarified by the RIPE NCC in the Impact Analysis, the current policies and procedures are already allowing assignments to be “somewhat anonymised”. This is not a change that 2023-04 will bring about.
Again this is simply not true. That line you propose to remove does not currently permit anonymised assignments as they MUST include contact details of the End User. So this IS a change that 2023-04 WILL bring about. Will you please finally acknowledge that 2023-04 will allow totally anonymised, individual assignment objects that the current policy does not allow? (This is without even using the aggregated feature you are proposing to introduce.) cheers denis
Best regards, Tore and Jeroen