Dear Shane, Shane Kerr wrote:
David,
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 13:38 +0200, David Monosov wrote:
- Given the diversity of legal systems the RIPE NCC service region, the success of contractually binding existing resource holders to a new contract and fee is uncertain, and might be the beginning of a long and expensive exercise in futility.
Hm... the only thing fee-related is:
"Any specific details of possible fees for such End Users are also out the scope of this proposal. This needs to be developed by the RIPE NCC Board in the same manner that LIR fees are proposed and developed."
The proposal also refers to a document titled “Contractual Requirements for Provider Independent Resource Holders in the RIPE NCC Service Region”, which contains additional information on this subject.
My take on the fee issue is:
* The intention of the proposal is to track resources, not to collect money.
The intention is clear. It's the contractual and operational details which are in a bit of a flux, and could benefit from a more balanced overview within the draft to present some of the potential implementation pitfalls.
If PI-holders have a contract with an LIR (for instance, one of their peers), then there is no fee necessary.
For what it's worth, currently the aforementioned document appears to contradict your take on this particular issue. It makes a specific requirement for assigned resources to be returned in the event the annual fee to the LIR is not paid.
* PI-holders do place *some* burden on the management of the Internet number resources, and so asking them to pay is not bad.
I think that in the ARIN region the fee is $100 a year (about €70) for allocations like this, which is a trivial amount of money, especially since (unlike in the ARIN region I think) there is a way to avoid this cost completely (by using an LIR).
-- Shane
-- Respectfully yours, David Monosov