-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/08/2013 08:25, Gert Doering wrote:
While you're free to do so, I'm just so slightly annoyed that you're doing this *again* - wait until the very last second, and then state fundamental objections.
I understand, and sympathise with your situation, but I'm not intentionally "waiting until the very last second". I think your criticism is a touch unfair. FWIW, on RPKI I had been raising concerns *for years* in WG meetings. It was only "at the very last second" that anybody explained to me that I was being deliberately ignored on the grounds that "if it's not said on the list, I didn't happen". Without such explanation, I had assumed the meetings were authoritative and the mailing list was merely supplementary co-ordination - which is how a many/most organisations work. Once I was informed of the procedure, I followed it immediately. As for this, well I don't read the APWG mailing list normally. I simply don't have time, it's not central to my job, and for most of its work I would have nothing useful to contribute. A LINX member told me about 2013-03 just a couple of weeks ago, and asked me to consider speaking up against it. I did so as soon as I had sanity checked what I intended to say. So I'm sorry the issue didn't come to my attention sooner, but I can't really apologise for doing my own job. But to be honest, there's no need to focus on me. Whereas my input on RPKI did stir up a whole load of new issues, and prompted entirely new objections from others, on this you've already had most of the points I raised mentioned in some form by other people. I just lent my support to their concerns, and collated and marshalled some of them into a unified argument. If you hadn't realised these "fundamental objections" were already lying in the way of achieving rough consensus, because you hadn't realised that those comments touched upon something at the heart of the proposal, well I'm glad I was able to assist. - -- Malcolm Hutty | tel: +44 20 7645 3523 Head of Public Affairs | Read the LINX Public Affairs blog London Internet Exchange | http://publicaffairs.linx.net/ London Internet Exchange Ltd 21-27 St Thomas Street, London SE1 9RY Company Registered in England No. 3137929 Trinity Court, Trinity Street, Peterborough PE1 1DA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH7s2oACgkQJiK3ugcyKhS4+gCeNmvaq5c0wVRmfxJ6dCxVprhq qY0AmQHhqubKw2GKN5okt+Msb7zz8GpZ =tVwD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----