Hi, On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:35:20PM -0400, Leo Vegoda wrote:
However the IPv6 allocation policy is revised, it needs to work well with a PI assignment policy. If the only criterion for receiving a / 32 IPv6 allocation is that you become a RIPE NCC member then you create a situation where networks wanting PI space must demonstrate a need for anything more than a /48 but anyone willing to pay ?3300 can get thousands of times as much space without needing to show any need.
Indeed. But given the past 7 years of history, we can't seem to come to a rule set that is more complex than "be LIR, ask for it" that people will agree upon. In IPv4 land, we had entry barriers for LIR allocations for a while, and that didn't work, so we're back to "be LIR, ask for it, get PA space" - and that model seems to work quite well.
One of the goals for IPv6 address space management is:
3.6. Fairness
All policies and practices relating to the use of public address space should apply fairly and equitably to all existing and potential members of the Internet community, regardless of their location, nationality, size, or any other factor.
I am not sure that this goal can be met if the only barrier to a block 65,636 times as large as a /48 PI assignment is an annual payment to the RIPE NCC.
One of the differences is a different tag on the address block ("this is for me only" vs. "this is for me and my customers") - PI vs. PA. OTOH, I can't really understand this excitement about the size of the address block. A /48 is large enough for all but the biggest "end user" networks - and a /32 is still fairly small regarding the total amount of /32s in FP 001. If the numbers are so huge, people should really stop worrying about "this guy got a bigger one than I did!!!". Thus I'm not worrying very much about bit haggling (this is IPv6, not IPv4), but about - general availability of IPv6 (-> make PA space *easy* to get) - pressure on the routing system (-> *one* prefix per LIR, if at all possible, and some incentive to not use PI for "normal end sites") Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 113403 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279