Hi, On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 04:35:07PM +0000, Sascha Luck wrote:
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 05:22:43PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
"if people can use PI to give single IPv6 addresses to their end customers, we might see DSL deployments with single address + NAT, and this not something I want to see"...)
Me neither. Maybe change the policy to require assigning min /64 in conjunction with making it assignable?
"Why bother making a very complicated PI policy while having a fairly simple PA policy"? On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 06:38:28PM +0200, Sascha Lenz wrote:
well, if we like it or not, there always will be the point about "if we can't do exactly the same thing with IPv6 as we do now with IPv4, we don't care about IPv6 anytime soon".
So from this p.o.v. it should be clear that both policies should be harmoni[s|z]ed. But is that what we want?
So we should have very restrictive IPv6 polices that demand that you justify every single address used? That would be "fully harmonized". <wg chair hat off> I'd say that this is the wrong direction to go. IPv6 deserves better. </> [..]
So i would opt for the simplest answer to the question: We tell the RIPE NCC that this is all intended as it is now, no change needed - and see what happens next (e.g. someone coming up with a formal PDP proposal, stating that his company (or so) desperately needs a change here)
Reasoning: For now it seems it is rather a problem for the NCC, what they should tell the requesting parties, not so much a community problem since no company/person came up with a formal PDP proposal to change anything here. I'm happy to rethink my position though if this discussion is going somewhere smelling like a consensus.
This is one possible result of the discussion - "the community is aware of the issue, but decides not to change anything". I think the NCC would be fine with that response, they just want to be sure we've considered our options :-) Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 150584 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279