Hi APWG,
5.1.2 Initial Allocation Size Allocations made by the RIPE NCC to the LIR have a minimum allocation size of a /32 and may be up to a /29 with no additional documentation required. Allocations made by the RIPE NCC to the End User have a minimum allocation size of a /32. RIPE NCC reserves a /29 for every /32 allocation, right? So even End Users would "occupy" a /29 even if many of them would forever be satisfied with a /48? This is god news for the routing table as only prefixes size are going to change if End Users grow their networks. (Unlike in IPv4, were grows often implied new routes popping up).
Elvis Velea wrote:
Creating different levels/limits will complicate the policy again and our aim was to make it as simple as possible. I like the proposals simplicity and I support the proposal from what I have read so far.
Then you would have only one path and no confusion: RIR[RIPE NCC] -> LIR -> End User I would support this if there is a way to eliminate the distinction of PI/PA in IPv4 too. In fact, with the initial proposal End Users are becoming IR in the moment they hand out their first address to a customer. The question is: How can we back off from those who *love*
Tore Anderson wrote: their Sponsoring LIR for doing all the "international RIPE stuff" and those who are eager to share some of their address space with friends/neighbors/customers? There should not arise any new requirement from a change like this for those who just want their network numbered without having to deal with international contracts but there should be new options for those who like to do IR things. RPKI, for example, is something the more tech-savy End Users are missing today. Nick Hilliard wrote:
So how could you convince the existing ipv6 PI holders that the cost increase from €50/year to LIR membership fees would be worth it? Speaking for me, not possible. Other small enterprises probably think the same. I think we should provide some strong incentive to become a LIR eventually. If the price jumps from 50EUR/yr to 1800EUR/yr business will ask what it gets for the extra money.
BTW, I suggest renaming End User to SIR (Sponsored Internet Registry). A SIR could re-allocate its address space and/or just number their enterprise network with it. Cheers Dan -- Dan Luedtke http://www.danrl.de