hi, On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 03:39:41PM -0000, michael.dillon@bt.com wrote:
(Oh, btw, maybe I should point out that you are also "part of RIPE",
I don't chair any WGs.
"RIPE" is "all of us" - the *community*. The WG chairing thing means I get more work to do, and I'm entitled to wear a coloured badge at RIPE meetings -- but it doesn't make me any more (or less) "part of RIPE" than you are.
So what is your point?)
Hank said that he did not get any formal notice that the fee changes would be voted on at the meeting. Hank did not complain about any mailing lists. Hank did not complain about any working groups.
Hank did complain that the people in the RIPE NCC, who are responsible for organizing the members meeting, made some mistakes.
Hank complained that he did not receive the announcement mail. This does not necessarily mean that "the people in the RIPE NCC made some mistakes".
Mistakes happen, but in order to fix them we need to understand exactly what it was that did happen and why it happened that way.
I agree with this part...
The notices to the RIPE announcement list are irrelevant in this case.
To the contrary. Mail gets lost due to SPAM filtering or other reasons all day. Having Message-IDs enables people to figure out whether their mailserver has indeed seen the e-mail (and delivered it somewhere or dropped it), or not. Your assumption seems to be "the RIPE NCC is responsible for all evil in the world". You might want to reconsider this position. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 128645 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279