Hi, On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 11:50:29AM +0100, Jon Lawrence wrote:
And this is part of the problem. We won't be rolling IPv6 out ot 200 customers any time soon. So we can't get an allocation. Thus we can't run trials with IPv6. I really fail to see the reason behind the 200 other organisation rule - perhaps somee one would like to explain the logic.
To clarify this, speaking officially as AP WG co-chair. - to gain IPv6 experience and to run trials, you should be able to get a /48 or bigger from your friendly IPv6 neighbour / tunnel peer / upstream. - if you have serious *plans* (<< note the emphasis) for deploying IPv6 services, and you have more than 200 IPv4 customers (!), *or* there is a remote chance that you will have 200 IPv6 customers in two years, you qualify for an IPv6 allocation. This is one of the most misunderstood parts of the policy. It's sole purpose is to weed out those that want IPv6 only for their own network, not to stifle IPv6 deployment for those LIRs that really want to get the ball rolling. Nobody can claim to be 100 per cent *sure* to have 200 IPv6 customers in two years (or even a /20 worth :-) ) - and that's the reason why the number of your IPv4 customers is also taken into account when judging the application. Or, to phrase it differently. As of today, *no single* IPv6 allocation request has been denied by the RIPE NCC. Sometimes they ask questions, or want a somewhat creative network plan. Some people get scared away by this - but so far, all serious requests have been approved. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 60210 (58081) SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-299