At 18:15 2008.11.17.t Cá', B C wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:55 PM,
Greg L.
<bgp2@linuxadmin.org>
wrote:
- Current IPv4 already provides more advantage to ccTLD and gTLD with
IPv4 /24 prefix allocations for BGP anycast than for other business
entities that would like to get /24 prefix for BGP anycast DNS
deployments.
- I don't see a reason why more resources should be allocated to
a specific group/entities named under "Critical infrastructure"
category that still compete with businesses that are unable to get /24
BGP anycast assignment for DNS solutions from Ripe.
I think that the term Critical Infrastructure speaks for itself really
doesn't it, without scalable and stable DNS deployments at the TLD level
the businesses you refer to would be at risk because of their parents
potential instability.
I guess it depends on what you define as Critical Infrastructure, I am
just talking about ccTLD/gTLD and ENUM registries/entity getting
allocations for Anycasting their TLD DNS servers, by definition these are
not in competition with businesses who are not in the TLD arena and
therefore I don't believe there is a 'fairness' issue.
One /24 prefix for TLD's DNS should be more than enough anyway. If you
are hosting ccTLD or gTLD it shouldn't automatically qualify you for
"Critical infrastructure". A small country with 200 ccTLD
domains registered is not more critical than some business hosting
120,000 .com/.net domains (a DNS service not ccTLD or gTLD). Maybe a high
reliability and uptime for this company is more critical to be in
business than a small ccTLD with just 2 million of DNS queries. However,
the small ccTLD get's /24 allocated without problems in Ripe region, the
other company does NOT.
Well I do not care much anyway since we have moved clients to Arin IP
space and meet all the requirements there and we are happy. I just wanted
to comment that /24 prefix for anycast should be more open to businesses
that meet some other criteria not just ccTLD or gTLD hosting.
- This is not fair (it was a bit fair when gTLD and ccTLD started out
5+ years ago).
I'm interested to know what has changed in this area in the last 5 years
and why you consider the fairness has changed?
Faster pipes, CPU power, better firewalls.... (cheaper HW)...
Greg
- This is why many European companies prefer Arin's IP space. Welcome
to Arin!
Well of course they are free to use ARIN space if they are able to meet
their allocation policies.
Brett
- At 18:09 2008.11.17.t Cá', you wrote:
- Ondrej,
- in the light of the comments on my proposal
for ENUM anycast assignments discussed in Dubai, I was planning to write
a revised policy proposal to go through PDP, I will be taking action on
this as soon as the minutes/webcast from Dubai are available. I think
it's safe to say we are working towards the same/similar goal and I think
it's important that we don't both do the same work. I will have a first
draft of my proposal here in the next couple of weeks.
- Regards
- Brett Carr
- Nominet UK
- On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ondřej Surý
<ondrej.sury@nic.cz>
wrote:
- Hello everybody,
- I would like to post unformal proposal before writing
- official policy modification proposal (and/or having
- discussion tomorrow on Open Hour).
- We would like to see policy for IPv4 and IPv6 modified
- to allow /24 *minimum* for IPv4 and /48 *minimum* to
- gTLD/ccTLD.
- First reason behind this is that one PI is not really
- enough and it's blocking us to deploy more DNS servers
- and make our TLD service more reliable.
- Second reason is that if we deploy more Anycasted DNS
- servers we could keep (or drop down) number of NS records
- for TLD, so we could manage to keep DNS reply size low
- even with DNSSEC.
- And last, but not least, it would be good to keep this
- synchronized with other regions (see [1],[2]). Note:
- we may also extend the list of requestors to:
- Root DNS, ccTLD, gTLD, IANA, RIRs.
- Which I think is reasonable list.
- 1.
http://www.nro.net/documents/comp-pol.html#2-4-2
- 2.
http://www.nro.net/documents/comp-pol.html#3-4-1
- If there is at least some consensus, I am willing to
- write official policy change proposal.
- Ondrej
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