Therefore I must insist and please contradict me if I'm wrong. In my opinion the adoption of this policy will : - increase membership fees Based on what? Because would-be IP-hoarders and people hoping to gain by abusing the policy to limit IPv4 usage will be incentivised NOT to keep opening LIRs and by that not bring additional income to RIPE? I doubt
- increase IPv4 address prices ... but only for companies unwilling to get bye with what they have and
- help the last /8 pool become even larger Measures for IP space conservation have ensured availability of addresses over the last ~10 years - if sensible decisions about policies cause push the frame further than previous measures have, I'd say: Job well done! Hopefully, by the time the Internet disables IPv4 there are still IPv4 addresses available for assignment by RIRs ... A policy is adopted today for today's situation. Personally I would not care what the original intent was, I would only focus on solving today's issues. I don't expect the original intent was to have a "last /8" pool that would just keep growing "forever". An additional /22 you give out today because you don't see a problem TODAY can't just be recovered tomorrow when a new LIR needs a /22 and you don't have any available anymore ... that's why the community HAS to
of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread. With the growing shortage of IPv4 addresses, prices will go up, making even the currently discussed policy change unsuited to keep people from gaming the system ... at current rate, the cost for a /22 network
Hi, that not gaining from hoarders will increase cost for RIPE and therefore its members ... last time I checked, RIPE's income was rather stable and usually well on the black side ... why do you believe this policy change will alter that? push IPv6 deployment and growth ... of course this may put some strain to newcomers, but imagine the strain on newcomers if they can't receive ANY IPv4 from RIRs anymore because hoarders have ensured that RIRs don't have any available anymore, thus requiring them to get their required IPv4 address on the market for even higher prices ... think of tomorrow's problems instead of just living in the today! through LIR registration is roughly at 2€/IP. The policy change raises that to 4€ ... what if you can get 10€/IP? 150% profit for a /22 is a pretty convincing business model ... -garry