On 9/10/12 10:34 CDT, Sascha Luck wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:14:37PM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: ...
By rejecting this proposal, this discrimination against End User requirements will be permanently enshrined in RIPE policy and that they won't get the opportunity to apply for reclaimed address space in future. Again, I find this to compound the implicit unfairness of excluding them in the first place.
Possible compromise: make *returned/reclaimed* PI assignments available for assignment as PI rather than using them to make up patchwork PA allocations...
Note that besides addresses returned or reclaimed by RIPE there is the Recovered IPv4 Pool administered by the IANA, see the global policy [GPP-IPv4-2011, AKA RIPE-2011-01]; http://www.icann.org/en/news/in-focus/global-addressing/allocation-ipv4-post... And it has more than a /8 in it already; https://www.arin.net/announcements/2012/20120611.html So there are going to be dribs and drabs of IPv4 for a long time. (For those not familiar with the idiom "dribs and drabs", it means "small sporadic amounts.") There will not be enough to really make a fundamental difference, however there will definitely be more than enough for people to argue over, its human nature and is already happening. As I don't represent any resources in the RIPE region, I will not express an opinion on the policy itself. But I though it was import for people to realize there is more than a trivial amount of resources in the IANA Recovered IPv4 Pool even though it won't save the world from IPv4 exhaustion either. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================