On 2013-02-06 15:32, Erik Bais wrote:
Debating how we might make the dregs of v4 space last a little bit longer does seem to me to be like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic after the iceberg hit. Having a deckchair or not, might become a topic if you see there is no room left on the lifeboats and you are looking for a floatation device ... presuming that they deckchairs are made from wood and will float .. Or if you want to do the sit and wait game, while everyone else is in panic and jumps.
Anyway .. back to the topic ..
If we are actually 'care about allowing new entrants', there might be another topic to look into which isn't covered in the current policy for the final /8.
And that is the fact that it is allowed to merge LIR's that have been assigned an allocation from the final /8.
Currently there are already 6 LIR's to my knowledge that have been merged that now have 2 or more 185.x.y.z /22's ... I've been hearing several discussions in the grapevines from parties that are already low on IP space to use that loop-hole to setup new LIR's, merge them and repeat.
To me, I think that we should cut off this route asap, otherwise we might as well hand out the final /8 as if any other /8 .. and be done with it ...
There will be allways such possibility, even if you say that LIRs that are closed shorter than i.e. 5 years after creation have to return addresses - this might be still cheaper to pay 1,8keuro/year than to buy addresses on market. 2keuro + 1.8euro/4 (just one quarter) = 2450 euro for 1024 IP = 2.4 euro per IP. Market price varies from 20$ to 10$ (depending on prefix size, smaller - more expansive). So maybe 5 years blocking period is a good idea as this will be allways money case ? Regards, Marcin
Btw.. anyone in need of a deckchair ? Just bring some whiskey and cigars .. let's sit down and watch the show unfold.
Regards, Erik Bais