On 09.06.2015 19:54, Ciprian Nica wrote:>
Come up with a proposal that will really stop this kind of activity and I'll fully support it.
The only proposal which would actually fully stop this is actually refusing Prefix-Transfers completely and enforce returning to the RIPE-Pool. The only chance for taking-over Resources then should be a real "merge" of two LIR including the demand of their individual customers justifying why it is important to not being renumbered ... That kind of proposal would actually remove a lot of "profit-making" for brokers etc. on one hand, but on the other hand it offers the opportunity to the ones really needing IPv4-Space to get their need fullfilled by RIPE... at least if that kind of proposal would also enforce withdrawing IP-space which is not being really used for a while. Actually if that'd be done world-wide with all address-space not publicly routed - and therefore easily to replace with 10.0.0.0/8 - we'd have sufficient IPv4 for the next decades ... Just a brief look into the routing-table on my router and I see 10 complete /8 (so called public IP-Space-prefixes) which are completely not announced and another 4 /8 with less then one /21 announced.... and I do not want to know how many of the large /8 to /14 announcements are actually routed into a blackholes, as there are no real users on large parts of those nets. ... and we discuss about /22 nets being "hoarded"? Sorry, could not resist to point on that. Still I support the proposal because it reduces the win for abusers and raises the risk that the now "hoarded" addresses are less worth when they are sellable. Hey, it is on us to make IPv4-Prefixes worthless. Best regards -- Jens Ott Opteamax GmbH Simrockstr. 4b 53619 Rheinbreitbach Tel.: +49 2224 969500 Fax: +49 2224 97691059 Email: jo@opteamax.de HRB: 23144, Amtsgericht Montabaur Umsatzsteuer-ID.: DE264133989