I 'm explaining you from RIPE NCC point of view.
If this is your understanding of what an LIR does ... no further comment.
Please be more polite. 23.04.2015, 17:35, "Opteamax GmbH" <ripe@opteamax.de>:
On 23.04.2015 16:13, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
OK. I explain this one more time :)
Just after receiving /22 you should create 2 x "inetnum" (each /23) with type ASSIGNED PA. Formally you are right since you have made assignments.
Which is not the intention. but I agree, obviously we need to clarify what an assignment is. Please refer to chapter 6 of ripe-643.
ASSIGNED PA: This address space has been assigned to an End User for use with services provided by the issuing LIR. It cannot be kept when terminating services provided by the LIR.
So "making an assignment" does *not* mean create a /23 inetnum in RIPE-DB. If this is your understanding of what an LIR does ... no further comment.
BR Jens
Furthermore you can create "route" object and announce your /22. In such case nobody can say "you don't use you allocation" or "you didn't make assignments".
23.04.2015, 17:08, "Jens Ott - Opteamax GmbH" <jo@opteamax.de>:
On 23.04.2015 14:45, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the allocation. Please point me where in quoted text you see any prohibition to open and merge LIRs with /22's? Buying and merging is not prohibited, _but_ opening LIR, requesting /22 and selling /22 and closing LIR ist probibited, as the LIR did not fullfil his confirmed will to make assignments!!
BR Jens
23.04.2015, 15:43, "Gert Doering" <gert@space.net>:
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:41:10PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
And why receiving /22's for own company is "legitimate" and for selling is not? *one* /22 per LIR is the last-/8 policy
not "open lots of LIRs, so a single LIR can have multiple /22s in the end, and circumvent the one-LIR-one-/22-allocated policy".
Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
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