Hi Hans,

El 14/04/2014 13:52, Hans Petter Holen escribió:
On 11.04.14 13:37, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:

On 11.04.14 11:19, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:
Isnt unequal right now? Are you saying is equal LIRs with thousands and thousands of IP address when there are LIRs with only a /22? Is equal that the LIRs with thousands can make lot of money from LIRs with only a /22?
I think this depends of how you define equality.
Is equality just comparing the number of addresses or IP addresses relative to customers or even pr capita of the market the LIR operates in.
I give you half a point here. You cant ask for IPs for a per capita of the market the LIR operates in.
Its unequal in the way a LIR have millions of unused IPs what dont return to RIPE just for selling and a new LIR who is growing up and need more than the /22 they have.


Its so hard to prove you need more IPs?
When I was new in this game I had to supply receipts of equipment to prove I was building a network. That was hard facts. But a customer prognosis based on historical growth or marketing plans was not accepted by the community. So I would say - yes its hard - and we have not been able to come up with a good criteria yet.
Maybe, if all this finish in a proposal, we should discuss how to prove you need it.

On 11.04.14 13:37, Dpto. Datos Television Costa Blanca wrote:
No its not equals. You have mooooooore game with 1 millions address than 1 thousand address.

If the LIR with 1million IP addresses has 4 million customer it has a bigger challenge than the one with 1 thousand addresses if that LIR only has 1000 customers.
Sure its a bigger challenge. But its biggest when you have 1k address and 4k customers. You know, concurrence % is better when you have more clients.
Your example is not good because you dont set same terms. a LIR with 1M address and 1M customers have more game than a LIR with 1k address and 1k clients.

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