Jump Management is a legit business and I'm pround to say I represented them in many transactions. They didn't hoard the last /8 and more importantly they didn't hoard the pre-last /8, so please don't bring them into discussion Maybe at the next RIPE meeting I'll prepare an accurate presentation of his business as it's probably unique around the world. Ciprian On 6/9/2015 7:42 PM, Petr Umelov wrote:
But you forgot Jump Management SRL, who has made
Attantion 1149 transfers
and there were blocks more than /22.
Yes, they aren't from the last /8, but may be RIPE will start to return unused blocks (during a year e.g.)? It will be more effectively.
09.06.2015, 19:33, "Ciprian Nica" <office@ip-broker.uk>:
On 6/9/2015 7:19 PM, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
help the last /8 pool become even larger
It's not true. There is still possibility to open multiple LIR's for the same person (legal or natural, no matter) and then merge them all together.
So this proposal (by itself) is not able to prevent /8 exhaustion
Puting an obstacle will probably reduce the "hoarding" so it would probably grow a little more than without this.
The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread.
Please abstain from national attacks. It's bad style of discussion.
As a RIPE community member I don't have anything against russians. I would not call "hoarding" what happens today with the last /8 but here is the statistics.
+--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ | seller | /22s | +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+ | Bulgakov Aleksey Yurievich | 31 | | QuickSoft LLC | 30 | | Julian Alberto Gomez Hernandez trading as "Adjenet Networks" | 5 | | Abdulrahman Nassir Alahmari trading as SABAH | 4 | | Al Safwa Al Saudia for Development Ltd | 2 | +--------------------------------------------------------------+------+
Theese are the only persons/businesses that sold more than 1 x /22 from the last /8.
It's obviously that the whole discussion started after noticing the activity of the top 2, who happens to be from Russia.
Ciprian
-- Kind regards, Petr Umelov