While I support the goals of 2013-03 in a post-IPv4-depletion world, we are currently in an uncomfortable intermediate state where IPv4 depletion has occurred in some regions (RIPE and APNIC) but not in others (ARIN, LACNIC, and AfriNIC). I think it will be wise to wait until IPv4 depletion to remove of (at least some) needs requirements in those regions that still have an IPv4 free pool. As a result of the fact of remaining RIR free pools, and the current policy and sentiment in the ARIN region that inter-RIR IPv4 transfers should occur only to organizations/regions that justify need for the addresses (to avoid a run on said free pool), I think it would be wise to do something like this: - First, pass an inter-RIR transfer policy in the RIPE region that is compatible with both the APNIC and ARIN inter-RIR transfer policies (i.e. has some form of needs justification). - Second, make sure that RIPE's transfer policy serves all organizations in the RIPE region, including those who in the past got PI space from RIPE. - Third, relax the ARIN region's inter-RIR transfer policy such that after IPv4 depletion in the ARIN region, transfers are allowed to regions with policies like 2013-03. - Fourth, pass something along the lines of 2013-03 in the RIPE region (to take effect) after IPv4 depletion has occurred in the ARIN region. - Fifth, update policy in other regions as well to align policy with the needs of a post-IPv4-depletion world. I'm more than happy to help drive #3 and eventually #5 in the ARIN region. -Scott On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:33 AM, <sandrabrown@ipv4marketgroup.com> wrote:
You can find the full proposal at:
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2013-03
We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to <address-policy-wg@ripe.net> before 16 April 2013.
Support.
This goal of 2012-03 was to align the justification period with the other RIR's who allow inter-RIR transfers. Tore's proposal 2013-03 will remove justification altogether, which is what all the RIR's need to do. The reason I went with a 24 month justification period in 2012-03 was because that was the period APNIC and ARIN use. I was hopeful that this would align the RIPE such that when transfers to and from those RIR's were considered, they would be allowed, because the RIPE would have a "like" policy.
Tore's policy may have the impact of bringing ALL the RIR's into the current market reality: that when an entity is paying for IP's, that is needs justification enough. There is no hoarding in an unencumbered market. RIPE is demonstrating true world leadership here.
Sandra Brown