2006-06 New Policy Proposal (IPv4 Maximum Allocation Period)
PDP Number: 2006-06 IPv4 Maximum Allocation Period Dear Colleagues, A new RIPE Policy Proposal has been made and is now available for discussion. This proposal is to have the RIPE NCC allocate address space to Local Internet Registries (LIRs) based on their one-year needs. In other words, it suggests setting a maximum allocation period of 12 months. You can find the full proposal at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/policies/proposals/2006-06.html We encourage you to review this proposal and send your comments to <address-policy-wg@ripe.net> before 10 October 2006. Regards Filiz Yilmaz RIPE NCC Policy Development Officer
HI, On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 10:15:14AM +0200, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:
This proposal is to have the RIPE NCC allocate address space to Local Internet Registries (LIRs) based on their one-year needs. In other words, it suggests setting a maximum allocation period of 12 months.
I agree with Jeroen - the subject is a bit misleading, and the wording of the summary could also be a bit more clearer. Regarding the proposal itself, playing the devil's advocate, I'm not sure why we want that - "the other registries are changing their policies so their members have a disadvantage now -- let's make life more difficult for our members as well?". Global harmonization is nice, but as the *main* argument for a change that's reducing people's freedom in planning, I'm always a bit sceptical... To better judge the impact on address fragmentation (and speaking from a LIR's perspective, having too many different allocations *is* a nuisance - think "reverse DNS", "routing announcements", etc), I'd like to see some numbers what impact in terms of "how many LIRs would have received multiple blocks instead of a single contiguous block?" if the allocation time frame would have changed to "1 year" something like 5 years ago... Gert Doering -- speaking as LIR, not as APWG co-chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 98999 SpaceNet AG Mail: netmaster@Space.Net Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Tel : +49-89-32356-0 D- 80807 Muenchen Fax : +49-89-32356-234
Hi, Gert Doering wrote:
HI,
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 10:15:14AM +0200, Filiz Yilmaz wrote:
This proposal is to have the RIPE NCC allocate address space to Local Internet Registries (LIRs) based on their one-year needs. In other words, it suggests setting a maximum allocation period of 12 months.
I agree with Jeroen - the subject is a bit misleading, and the wording of the summary could also be a bit more clearer.
Regarding the proposal itself, playing the devil's advocate, I'm not sure why we want that - "the other registries are changing their policies so their members have a disadvantage now -- let's make life more difficult for our members as well?". Global harmonization is nice, but as the *main* argument for a change that's reducing people's freedom in planning, I'm always a bit sceptical...
i'm with you and your arguments here. Especially since the policies of the other RIRs are all different from each other, and there's only a similiar proposal to harmonise it in one of them.
To better judge the impact on address fragmentation (and speaking from a LIR's perspective, having too many different allocations *is* a nuisance - think "reverse DNS", "routing announcements", etc), I'd like to see some numbers what impact in terms of "how many LIRs would have received multiple blocks instead of a single contiguous block?" if the allocation time frame would have changed to "1 year" something like 5 years ago...
According to "b. Arguments Opposing the Proposal", the impact is minimal compared to other DFZ-bloating issues, but i don't have any numbers on it myself. Additionally, i still see no real reason to conserve IPv4 address space, my inofficial point of view is: waste IPv4 addresses so we can go with IPv6 :) All in all, i don't support this proposal at the moment. -- ======================================================================== = Sascha Lenz SLZ-RIPE slz@baycix.de = = Network Operations = = BayCIX GmbH, Landshut * PGP public Key on demand * = ========================================================================
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