Hi I agree with Arash and also people can transfer their IP's after two years. So the proposal doesn't help again. -- Shahin Gharghi
On 01.07.2015 07:38, Shahin Gharghi wrote:
Hi
I agree with Arash and also people can transfer their IP's after two years. So the proposal doesn't help again.
So, in essence, you would rather do NOTHING than accept the proposal, which at least - at the moment - significantly increases cost for IP-traders, while at the same time giving us additional time to come up with a better solution (which probably takes another year to come up with, discuss, optimize, and pass)? Why don't you enlighten us how you would improve 2015-1 in order to prevent abuse of the current policy? If you have any good ideas, I believe all of the people on the list would appreciate any constructive input? -garry
Hi, On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 08:04:02AM +0200, Garry Glendown wrote:
On 01.07.2015 07:38, Shahin Gharghi wrote:
I agree with Arash and also people can transfer their IP's after two years. So the proposal doesn't help again.
So, in essence, you would rather do NOTHING than accept the proposal, which at least - at the moment - significantly increases cost for IP-traders, [..]
Garry, please stop argueing points that have already been addressed - it is not necessary to discuss them in detail again and again, Shahin can just as well go back to the list archives and read up on the previous discussion. I see that you intend well, but if your counterparts do not listen it is not serving a useful purpose. General call to order: the noise on the list is again raising quite a lot, by repetition of points that have been discussed (in variants) exhaustively in the discussion and review phases. Last Call is for *new* concerns. If you're not sure if your concern has already been mentioned, don't "just run out and shout", read up the archives first, and Sander's very detailed summary. If you're still not sure, talk to the chairs first (apwg-chairs@ripe.net). What we are NOT interested in is new variants of "this is not going far enough", "people will find other ways to make money", "I want the last /8 policy to be changed in other ways!", "it impacts my business!", "IPv4 must run out quickly, otherwise nobody will deply IPv6!" - these have been heard before. If you keep posting such, we *will* install some sort of moderation to keep the list useful. Most likely just moderating specific individuals. Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
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