On 12/03/2013 13:37, sandrabrown@ipv4marketgroup.com wrote:

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I'm worried by the wooliness of phrases such as "The Originating LIR and the IPv4 address space transferred are in compliance with the Originating Policy" I really don't know what this means and I see a world of pain unless it's clarified. What does "in compliance with" actually mean in this context?

Currently the only RIR's with similar transfer policies are ARIN and APNIC. As an example, if the LIR is in ARIN region, then the LIR must be in compliance with ARIN policy in order to transfer its IPv4 address space to a RIPE LIR. The ARIN based LIR would apply to ARIN and request to transfer. (That is how it works for ARIN to APNIC transfers today.) ARIN makes sure the LIR has registration of the space before making the transfer.

Similarly, I would expect for a RIPE to ARIN or APNIC transfer RIPE needs to ensure that the RIPE LIR has correct registration of the IP space being transferred.

I know what you are trying to say, but I don't think you are actually saying it. An LIR cannot be "in compliance with" an RIR's policy. I think what you are trying to say is that the address space being transferred is being held in compliance with the RIR's policy. And unless this wording is fixed I can't support this policy. I have bitter experience of after-the-event nit picking, confusion and pain in the internet community. Nigel Nigel