Details regarding the progress of 2007-01 Phase 2 implementation?
Dear address-policy-wg, As phase 2 of the implementation of 2007-01 is well underway and gradually approaching its conclusion, it might be both interesting and beneficial to see some details about the success of this effort so far. Could RIPE NCC furnish the following data at their earliest convenience for the benefit of this work group, and if workload permits, provide monthly updates until phase 2 is complete? - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User". - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "Not My End User". - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My Infrastructure". - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided but are not yet processed. - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently approved by RIPE NCC. - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently rejected by RIPE NCC. - Number and % of direct assignments which fall under the scope of 2007-01 phase 2 which remain completely untreated. This data should provide some insight about the challenges that further implementation phases will entail, and create an opportunity for the community to address such challenges on the policy level in a timely manner if required. -- Respectfully yours, David Monosov
Hi, On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:56:24PM +0200, David Monosov wrote:
As phase 2 of the implementation of 2007-01 is well underway and gradually approaching its conclusion, it might be both interesting and beneficial to see some details about the success of this effort so far.
Indeed, this data would be interesting. Thanks for the suggestion. Best regards, Daniel -- CLUE-RIPE -- Jabber: dr@cluenet.de -- dr@IRCnet -- PGP: 0xA85C8AA0
At 20:56 22/10/2009 +0200, David Monosov wrote: Excellent questions and I hope RIPE responds. -Hank
Dear address-policy-wg,
As phase 2 of the implementation of 2007-01 is well underway and gradually approaching its conclusion, it might be both interesting and beneficial to see some details about the success of this effort so far.
Could RIPE NCC furnish the following data at their earliest convenience for the benefit of this work group, and if workload permits, provide monthly updates until phase 2 is complete?
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User". - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "Not My End User". - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My Infrastructure". - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided but are not yet processed. - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently approved by RIPE NCC. - Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently rejected by RIPE NCC. - Number and % of direct assignments which fall under the scope of 2007-01 phase 2 which remain completely untreated.
This data should provide some insight about the challenges that further implementation phases will entail, and create an opportunity for the community to address such challenges on the policy level in a timely manner if required.
-- Respectfully yours,
David Monosov
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear David, David Monosov wrote:
Dear address-policy-wg,
As phase 2 of the implementation of 2007-01 is well underway and gradually approaching its conclusion, it might be both interesting and beneficial to see some details about the success of this effort so far.
Could RIPE NCC furnish the following data at their earliest convenience for the benefit of this work group, and if workload permits, provide monthly updates until phase 2 is complete?
The numbers below are from 2009-10-26. The total number of independent Internet number resources included in phase 2 are 26940 and the number of LIRs involved is 4903. Currently about 88% of independent resources involved in phase 2 have their status set (23790 out of 26940); Currently about 73% (3617 out of 4903) of LIRs have participated.
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User".
12187 independent resources have been marked as "My End User".
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "Not My End User".
6705 independent resources have been marked as "Not My End User".
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My Infrastructure".
4652 independent resources have been marked as "My Infrastructure".
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided but are not yet processed.
About 750.
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently approved by RIPE NCC.
About 760 (this number and the one above also include about 200 contracts received for independent resource transfers between LIRs). LIRs will soon be reminded about the timelines.
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently rejected by RIPE NCC.
We do not reject the contract. if the contract does not fulfill the requirements we will work together with the LIR to fix the inconsistency.
- Number and % of direct assignments which fall under the scope of 2007-01 phase 2 which remain completely untreated.
About 12% (3150 independent resources). I hope this helps. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me. Best regards, Andrea Cima RIPE NCC
This data should provide some insight about the challenges that further implementation phases will entail, and create an opportunity for the community to address such challenges on the policy level in a timely manner if required.
-- Respectfully yours,
David Monosov
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At 12:47 26/10/2009 +0100, Andrea Cima wrote:
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Dear David,
David Monosov wrote:
Dear address-policy-wg,
As phase 2 of the implementation of 2007-01 is well underway and gradually approaching its conclusion, it might be both interesting and beneficial to see some details about the success of this effort so far.
Could RIPE NCC furnish the following data at their earliest convenience for the benefit of this work group, and if workload permits, provide monthly updates until phase 2 is complete?
The numbers below are from 2009-10-26. The total number of independent Internet number resources included in phase 2 are 26940 and the number of LIRs involved is 4903.
Currently about 88% of independent resources involved in phase 2 have their status set (23790 out of 26940);
Currently about 73% (3617 out of 4903) of LIRs have participated.
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User".
12187 independent resources have been marked as "My End User".
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "Not My End User".
6705 independent resources have been marked as "Not My End User".
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My Infrastructure".
4652 independent resources have been marked as "My Infrastructure".
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided but are not yet processed.
About 750.
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently approved by RIPE NCC.
About 760 (this number and the one above also include about 200 contracts received for independent resource transfers between LIRs).
LIRs will soon be reminded about the timelines.
- Number and % of direct assignments marked by LIRs as "My End User" for which contracts and registration information were provided and subsequently rejected by RIPE NCC.
We do not reject the contract. if the contract does not fulfill the requirements we will work together with the LIR to fix the inconsistency.
- Number and % of direct assignments which fall under the scope of 2007-01 phase 2 which remain completely untreated.
About 12% (3150 independent resources).
What does RIPE NCC plan on doing with these? Timeline? Treatment? Perhaps a special RIPE doc for this?
I hope this helps.
Excellently! -Hank
If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Andrea Cima RIPE NCC
This data should provide some insight about the challenges that further implementation phases will entail, and create an opportunity for the community to address such challenges on the policy level in a timely manner if required.
-- Respectfully yours,
David Monosov
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear Hank, Hank Nussbacher wrote: [...]
- Number and % of direct assignments which fall under the scope of 2007-01 phase 2 which remain completely untreated.
About 12% (3150 independent resources).
What does RIPE NCC plan on doing with these? Timeline? Treatment? Perhaps a special RIPE doc for this?
The resources that do not have a contract in place by the end of Phase 2 will be considered 'orphaned' and will be made part of Phase 3 (contact the End Users of those resources directly). As we now have a better insight into the number of resources we will be dealing with, we are working on the Phase 3 process. As you suggest, before starting Phase 3, we will publish a procedural document detailing the process. With regards to the timeline, we are currently assessing the implications of contacting End Users who have been assigned resources in the past. Best regards, Andrea Cima RIPE NCC -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkrnJUgACgkQXOgsmPkFrjOG4wCgj8DAAIxxcSwv1z2ZM6wzZQHu t2oAoJHgKd4pEU94iMA8Fq07wvmf7R86 =tiGC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Andrea Cima wrote:
The resources that do not have a contract in place by the end of Phase 2 will be considered 'orphaned' and will be made part of Phase 3 (contact the End Users of those resources directly).
May I suggest that as stage 1, postal mail be sent as well as email not only to the tech-c, admin-c etc but also to the email address as listed here: http://puck.nether.net/netops/nocs.cgi This way you have a better chance of actually getting someone. If no contact after 3 weeks, at stage 2, check the RIB and look for the upstream peers of the ASN announcing the resource (ASN or IP space). Send email to those tech-c and admin-c and NOCs as well as postal mail informing them that a downstream customer of theirs has gone AWOL. If the resource is not being announced then needless to say, you can skip this stage. Regards, Hank
As we now have a better insight into the number of resources we will be dealing with, we are working on the Phase 3 process.
As you suggest, before starting Phase 3, we will publish a procedural document detailing the process. With regards to the timeline, we are currently assessing the implications of contacting End Users who have been assigned resources in the past.
Best regards,
Andrea Cima RIPE NCC
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Andrea Cima -
Daniel Roesen -
David Monosov -
Hank Nussbacher