Re: Easy to remember IP-address
Jim Reid wrote:
I'm not sure Shane that an allocation of vanity addresses would fit with these goals. If it does, then fine. Though I'm doubtful. If there were "too many" vanity assignments, that may well fragment the unused space in a way that prevents another LIR getting a contiguous allocation that's big enough for their genuine technical needs. It might also encourage a land-grab by people gobbling up vanity space that they don't actually need in the hope that they could sell it on later.
Jim, I fully understand this concern. An overly large number of assignments might fragment the address space and lead to people trying take advantage of an opportunity to resell addresses. Something like Cybersquatting that is practiced with domain names. However I think that the RIPE community is capable of stopping that. That would require formal and very serious requirements for requesting vanity addresses for certain projects that will benefit the people. Honestly, I'm not even sure that there will be so many people interested in getting such ip-addresses if the process is a formal and not a simple one. Besides, we would very much like for our request to be reviewed by the committee from RIPE NCC in a speacial manner. Because we're requesting these addresses not for resale or direct monetary benefit and think that if we're given them all parties are going to win. We're trying to make the internet a safer place for millions of people and improve the present technical infrastructure at the same time by creating a distributed network of available and effective DNS-servers in Russia and Europe. I can't speak for Europe but in Russia and its neighboring countries the existing DNS-structure has a lot of problems such as slow channels and outdated equipment, lack of DNSSEC support and protection from attacks. All this we want to change. -- Kind regards, Sergey Gotsulyak
On 6 Apr 2010, at 09:51, Sergey Gotsulyak wrote:
We're trying to make the internet a safer place for millions of people and improve the present technical infrastructure at the same time by creating a distributed network of available and effective DNS-servers in Russia and Europe. I can't speak for Europe but in Russia and its neighboring countries the existing DNS-structure has a lot of problems such as slow channels and outdated equipment, lack of DNSSEC support and protection from attacks.
Sergey, these are Noble Things that hopefully everyone can agree on. I wish you well in those efforts. However I simply don't see what that has to do with easily remembered IP addresses or how these could matter to the services you propose to offer. It seems very unlikely these services or their intended customers would care whether they were provided on memorable addresses or not. For some definition of memorable... BTW, your plans for a (global?) DNS service sound interesting. Perhaps you could come along to the DNS WG to discuss your ideas?
Jim Reid wrote: [...]
Sergey, these are Noble Things that hopefully everyone can agree on.
I would be very reluctant to do so, after reading: "that will allow millions of people from Russia and Europe to speed up DNS-requests and filter out untrustful websites like with malware and phishing content... Besides, we hope to provide services for parents preventing children from accessing forbidden websites. This alone will benefit millions of internet users too." That rather sounds like a single point of failure or a "red button". In principle, my personal opinion here is OT, too, but I'd like to make the case that it shouldn't be the NCC's business to assess the "value" or "benefit" or "merit" of a particular (planned) service or application. The NCC should never get into the nasty business of vanity numbers, imho! If a need for resources is properly documented, then the applicant gets the next free junk of available resources; according to the NCC's internal and technically and administratively sound procedures. Full stop. Wilfried.
participants (3)
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Jim Reid
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Sergey Gotsulyak
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Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet