And obviously you are missing my point. I am hardly saying "This is the year"... I do not think there will a single year that will define / be defined by what boils down to the deployment of better plumbing. Was there ever a "year of www", "year of SMTP", etc.? I think you misunderstand - I do have a fairly long view here, but believe that circumstances have changed | are changing. I could say the same thing about denial, but that leads us down a very non-productive path. Probably best to agree to disagree at this point ... /TJ (Although I am still interested in your (or anyone else's, for that matter) opinion of those deploying / planning to deploy / etc. IPv6 ... ) ------Original Message------ From: Masataka Ohta To: TJ Evans Cc: address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net Cc: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] RE: The price of address space Sent: Jul 23, 2009 21:19 TJ wrote:

I do ... and have seen many "This is the year of IPv6" style statements, which is not what I am saying.

Sorry, but I wholeheartedly disagree - I see that quite a bit has changed WRT IPv6. The protocol itself has been tweaked, the implementations of the protocol have evolved, the deployment guidelines for both and the understanding of all three of those things has been escalating rapidly over the last ~couple-few years ...

So obviously, you are saying "This is the year of IPv6". If you could have had a longer retrospective view, you could have noticed that your reasoning has been repeated so many times. Masataka Ohta Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry