RE: [address-policy-wg] RE: Private address space in IPv4 and IPv6 [was something irrelevantly titled]
-----Original Message----- From: address-policy-wg-admin@ripe.net [mailto:address-policy-wg- admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Gert Doering Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:00 PM To: michael.dillon@bt.com Cc: address-policy-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] RE: Private address space in IPv4 and IPv6 [was something irrelevantly titled]
Hi,
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:03:16AM +0100, michael.dillon@bt.com wrote:
A very large number of organizations depend on these internetworks, and they would not be terribly happy if ISPs would hijack the entire IP address space for their own profits. But I think that the RIR boards understand this and have no intention of changing the rules to reserve IP addresses only for the public Internet.
Let me second that.
This has always been my understanding on the principles that govern the RIRs' operation - "provide unique numbers to the people that need unique numbers". Be it IPv4, IPv6 or ASes. No, because it has (providing the "numbers") the scope - the Internet, If I want to create my own network, not connected to the scope, I don't need to use any of rules of disconnected network. I'm surprised that you are not understanding and differentiating that. Maybe, following your thoughts, I could get the IP number for my pet? Just to be more "connected" to the network?
Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 128645
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Vladislav Potapov Ru.iiat
Hi, On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 02:24:42PM +0400, poty@iiat.ru wrote:
This has always been my understanding on the principles that govern the RIRs' operation - "provide unique numbers to the people that need unique numbers". Be it IPv4, IPv6 or ASes.
No, because it has (providing the "numbers") the scope - the Internet, If I want to create my own network, not connected to the scope, I don't need to use any of rules of disconnected network. I'm surprised that you are not understanding and differentiating that.
To phrase this a bit more blunt: you're completely off-base. I was wording this in a polite way would have permitted you to step back without losing face. Before accusing people in this list that they have no clue or no understanding how this thing works, how the RIR system works, and so on - maybe you should actually try to do a bit of reading on how long some of these people have been actively working as part of the RIPE addressing community.
Maybe, following your thoughts, I could get the IP number for my pet? Just to be more "connected" to the network?
If your pet has an IP connection, and you can make a good point that it's very likely that your pet will be connected to other pets *using IP networks*, the point could be argued that this is a valid usage of IP resources. If your pet is not using IP networking technology, it doesn't need IP addresses. (This was my last e-mail on this topic, and I would kindly ask the other mailing list participants to refrain from answering this troll until he shows a bit more interesting in understanding reality). Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 128645 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
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